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  1. Summer Timer wrote:

    We are getting better…. Showing signs of improvement….

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 5:19 am | Permalink
  2. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    Shutt the dum place down and maek an amusement park out ov it with bumpur cars:

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 6:32 am | Permalink
  3. Summer Timer wrote:

    #2…. Education is the key to success…. Being a union worker will lead to a less than averave life….

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 8:08 am | Permalink
  4. Business Owner wrote:

    If Belmar had a superior school system the down town would thrive and redevelopment would take care of itself. I must admit however, Belmar has great bars within walking distance from anywhere in town except perhaps the north end.

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 8:18 am | Permalink
  5. Anonymous wrote:

    North end will get their share eventually .
    Not north end but the rumor mill says BeachHaus Brewery will be getting a regular liquor license.

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 8:42 am | Permalink
  6. A Voter 2 wrote:

    I hope the BOE is requiring a plan of improvement from the teachers that are having a problem connecting with the students. If Spring Lake Heights and other towns have improved there is no excuse for BES to improve.

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 8:50 am | Permalink
  7. Anonymous wrote:

    Breaks your heart.

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 9:01 am | Permalink
  8. OLD MAN wrote:

    #3 Are you crazy? Union people work hard and earn a good wage. My father was a union worker and we had a really good life. Don’t mock union workers. However some are leeches like any workplace.

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 9:06 am | Permalink
  9. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    Sir/Madam, The BOE can’t do anything even if they wanted to (which they don’t). They’re caught up in an obsolete system. The only answer is to commission a study group to come up with a revolutionary new plan of education (no more than five years) and at the end, implement it. We just keep doing the same thing every year and act mystified as to why it doesn’t work. Obviously, the entrenched bureaucrats/teachers/vendors/etc. in charge don’t want this, but at some point it will be unavoidable. Meantime, we through good money after bad down a rat hole. Lastly, many parents don’t want a change because it’s cheap daycare.

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 9:16 am | Permalink
  10. Lawless wrote:

    The Tax Revenue from all the new developments should help the school make the needed improvements. Oh wait my bad Matt’s deals don’t provide for the school.

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 9:24 am | Permalink
  11. Eugene Creamer wrote:

    BES has something the other schools don’t – an arcade across the street.
    Coming soon – legalized pot and elimination of ‘Drug Free’ school zone.

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 9:39 am | Permalink
  12. A Voter 2 wrote:

    #9 You are right the majority of people dont care so the BOE does not care. I was merely pointing out other towns do have pride in their town’s education.

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 9:46 am | Permalink
  13. Summer Timer wrote:

    #8.. I am not mocking union workers, just stating facts… People working in Financials, Information Tech, Medical are all educated… They also make a much better living than union workers….

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 11:11 am | Permalink
  14. Summer Timer wrote:

    #6… You are right on the money… A corrective action plan should be a requirement, considering the schools score. But then we will be able to hold BOE and school administration accountable if the corrective actions FAIL… But you have a UNION and LIBERALS in play, so they will just swipe it all under the rug and do NOTHING to protect status quo.

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 11:17 am | Permalink
  15. Summer Timer wrote:

    Click on the link below…. You will find the best schools in NJ… Take note that most of the top schools are PRIVATE, no union and have to keep the light on as a self funded entity. Public school are just a money pit, they just keep asking for more money as they continue to FAIL… The only top rated public school are those that are considered SUPER schools. They cherry pick the best students in their region making it a loaded team…
    https://patch.com/new-jersey/triboro/s/gc6he/these-are-the-top-100-schools-in-nj-for-2018-new-list-says?utm_source=alert-breakingnews&utm_medium=email&utm_term=weather&utm_campaign=alert

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 11:29 am | Permalink
  16. A Voter 2 wrote:

    #14 It seems that the majority of residents in Belmar feel its more important to see how many liquor licenses we can put in Belmar, than kids that go on to Harvard,Princeton, or Yale. Thank God my kids went to private school.

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 2:53 pm | Permalink
  17. Summer Timer wrote:

    #16… My kids are in private school as well… Its your only choice…

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 3:36 pm | Permalink
  18. OLD MAN wrote:

    #17 Other choice is to move out of NJ. Follow the movers South

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 8:56 pm | Permalink
  19. Guest wrote:

    #17 – I can not afford to send my children to Private school so in my household there is no choice.

    Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 9:37 pm | Permalink
  20. OLD MAN wrote:

    #19 Sadly you and many others are stuck within the Union strangle hold.

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 5:48 am | Permalink
  21. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    #19 – At least you should tell your children their teachers are lying about America and American history. Always teach them to love this nation no matter what the teachers say and to challenge the teacher when he/she says anything negative about our nation.

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 6:00 am | Permalink
  22. Heard Enough wrote:

    To all of the negative commenters on this post, I can appreciate your opinion. However…I am a born and raised Belmar resident who still lives in town. I attended Belmar Elementary School. My children attended Belmar Elementary School. I have my Master’s Degree and am doing well for myself. My children will soon graduate high school and are on their way to becoming productive members of society as well. The Belmar staff does take pride in the school and in helping their students achieve to the best of their abilities. The members of the BES BOE do take their jobs seriously and strive to give the students the best education they can. If you have so much to say and can do a better job, please run and take a place on the BOE. No one would be opposed to individuals with good intentions and great ideas running for a seat to improve our school.

    As far as other schools in our area performing better; please make sure you are comparing apples to apples in looking at the demographics of each school district and performance.

    I am not saying the education system is perfect. It is not. I am not saying that BES does not have room for improvement. Every institution does. Attend a BOE meeting, visit the school, see for your own eyes what goes on there. Do not judge based on what you think you know or what you have heard.

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 7:47 am | Permalink
  23. Guest wrote:

    I find it ridiculous that in a town where the average home price is as high as it is here we face the problems we do in that school. And it’s a shame that many families feel the need to use private schools or pay tuition at neighboring public schools.

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 8:28 am | Permalink
  24. A Voter 2 wrote:

    #22 Good for your success, however there is absolutely no concerted effort that i see in improving the school just excuses. Spring Lake Heights is no Spring Lake and they took action and significantly improved their school. These are FACTS not negative opinions. Don’t tell me there is more of an effort to increase liquor licenses than improving the school, that is the mindset of the majority, they don’t care if they did things would change for the better!

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 8:53 am | Permalink
  25. guest wrote:

    IF you read the article elementary and middle school scores are based on absenteeism, PARCC and student progress on PARCC tests, according to the state Department of Education. Many students “opted out” of taking the PARCC test. I don’t believe you can judge the whole school on state testing.
    I agree with #22 Don’t judge on what you think you know or what you have heard.

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 9:31 am | Permalink
  26. Heard Enough wrote:

    #22 I am not making a statement about the town and the liquor licenses. I don’t agree with most of what has been happening in the town. I would have to write a book to even respond to that. My statement was directed to the opinions with regards to our school.

    You seem to know the FACTS regarding what Spring Lake Heights has done. But from what you “SEE” Belmar has done nothing to improve. Please research some FACTS about BES. Go to a BOE meeting, speak to the teachers and administration to find out what their action plans are and find out what they are doing to improve. I think you might learn something that you did not know.

    Again, compare Belmar’s student demographics to a town that is more like us. Bradley Beach, Neptune City…these schools have a similar student demographic. It is not based on average home prices and income. The demographics that the state looks at for testing is gender, special education, English Language Learners and free/reduced lunch (which would indicate income). Just because Belmar has high home values, does not mean students from those homes are attending Belmar and are included in the student demographics.

    I am sorry to say, in my opinion, that many people who send their students to private school do so not really because of the education their child would receive at BES. It has more to do with the color of the skin they see on the majority of the students who enter the building every day.

    If any parent was considering sending their child to BES and actually made the decision based on a visit to the school, a talk with the administration and teachers, a classroom observation and attendance at a few BOE meetings, I think many of them would put their reservations aside and be pleasantly surprised at what they see going on at BES.

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 10:35 am | Permalink
  27. Heard Enough wrote:

    I meant #24. Sorry.

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 12:05 pm | Permalink
  28. Summer Timer wrote:

    #26…. You sound like you are a member of THE FAILED BELMAR BOE…. Many excuses and no results… And I dont agree with your demographics comment… Young childern are like sponges if properly engaged… The biggest issue with the public school system is the protection the UNIONS give the teachers… At a private school many of the teachers would be terminated for poor performance…

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 12:06 pm | Permalink
  29. Summer Timer wrote:

    This is a typical argument suggested in the NJ PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM…. In affluent towns with great test scores the teachers and administration take FULL CREDIT for the fantastic job they are doing… But in less affluent towns in which test scores are low, its the demographics…. YOU CANT PLAY BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE!!!!! YOU LOSS CREDIBILITY!!!! WHICH THE NJ PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM HAS!!!!

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 12:22 pm | Permalink
  30. Heard Enough wrote:

    #28. I was not a member of the BOE. I don’t think you are interpreting my demographics comment properly. I do agree with you about children being like sponges. Have a great weekend.

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 12:27 pm | Permalink
  31. Anonymous wrote:

    Fortunately, many of the failed former BES students are scrounging up just enough money to keep the local bars in business during the winter. The unfortunate side effect of that is many of them continue to appear in the weekly police blotter. This town is full of too many kids that never grew up.

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 12:29 pm | Permalink
  32. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    pleasantly surprised
    ————————
    #26 – I don’t think anyone’s “pleasantly surprised” that we’re being robbed (theft of services) every day the children of illegal aliens go to BES every morning (the staff of BES is fully aware of this).

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 2:08 pm | Permalink
  33. Anonymous wrote:

    What does capitalization of alphabetical characters represent in certain postings herein, keyboard stuck?

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 2:14 pm | Permalink
  34. Guest wrote:

    The system is also being abused by non residents of Belmar using the school. Sit outside the school any given morning between 7:30-8:10 and watch the number of taxis pull up from out of town. A blind eye is turned bc of title I funding. The school recieves state aid funding based on the number of low income students.

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 2:15 pm | Permalink
  35. Summer Timer wrote:

    #34… To fix the nonresident issue would take a unit of work…. The Public School System are alergic to work… Also work is not associated with the UNION contract….

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 3:16 pm | Permalink
  36. Just Passing Through wrote:

    #34 How true!

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 3:32 pm | Permalink
  37. Just Passing Through wrote:

    #32 Tom its not only in Belmar and not illegal aliens. There are many towns that have investigators for parents that are dropping their kids to a neighboring school that has high ratings such as Millburn, Princeton,Edison North HS to name a few. They do prosecute.

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 5:01 pm | Permalink
  38. Hmmm? wrote:

    #34. Notice vehicles with out of state plates too.

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 5:13 pm | Permalink
  39. Venerable Bede wrote:

    Before I moved to Belmar and started my new career attacking the Doherty administration, I was a teacher K-12 NJ public schools. There are no surprises with the new report or any prior. The parents and their expectations cause the grades you see per school and per district. I grew up in Ewing Twp. they are just below Belmar. They were not much better in 1967 when I graduated. Low expectations. Towards the end of my teaching career, I had the great fortune of teaching high school in Bergen County. Look at ##1 Cresskill- almost 30% Asian, Englewood Cliffs, Hell even Jersey City 40% Asian. It’s not that Asian -Americans are smarter, they are not but their parents have bigger dreams, higher expectations, monitor their children and are involved in their public education. No magic.

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 5:50 pm | Permalink
  40. Summer Timer wrote:

    #39…. In many of the town you speak of, tutors have setup camp and are making a fortune supplementing the failed public school system… Its not that parents are involved with the public schools, they engage their childern an ensure they get the education they deserve… While others in affluent towns go the private school route… Public schools are a failed system that need to be revamped…

    Friday, February 2, 2018 at 8:18 pm | Permalink
  41. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    Ladies and Gentlemen – The point to me is BES is staffed by unpatriotic people (not every last one of them – the vast majority though) who are part of an anti-American conspiracy and are poisoning our children’s minds. If your child goes to that school monitor what they’re being told and point out the lies to them.

    Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 5:40 am | Permalink
  42. Aileen Fahy wrote:

    Thanks Heard Enough. I would never let my kids stay at BES if they weren’t getting a good education and real world experiences. My daughter is going to college next year. She got into every school and they all are giving her money to attend. She had to test to be accepted to her high school (RBR), and she had no problem with the work load freshman year. She is not a go-getter I must admit. She was simply prepared. My son is a freshman at Manasquan. Same situation. It’s easy work. Others who went to CBA from BES say it was challenging but didn’t have a problem with good grades. I have a friend from Spring Lake who’s son switched from CBA to Manasquan because it was too overwhelming. Now, CBA’s stats don’t include that student’s grades, unlike public schools which of course don’t weed out students. Obviously, Belmar has challenges, but it’s great to know that people are still trying, and the quality of education is there.

    Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 9:05 am | Permalink
  43. Anonymous wrote:

    Thanks Aileen for bringing sanity back to very troubling signs of the future.

    Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 9:21 am | Permalink
  44. Anonymous wrote:

    I agree with #42. My children and children of relatives have attended BES over a period of many years. All received excellent instruction, went on to colleges or business schools. The teachers were always helpful and well-prepared to teach. Communication was great too. If one of our kids was having a problem with subject matter, or anything else, a staff member would phone us about the situation. Never knew any of the teachers to speak out against our country. In fact, when history/ social studies was taught , it was done so with a great regard for the USA. It’s the law of the land that all children receive free public education, whether born here or not. My kids went there, got a good base education, as did every other child that I know of personally. In fact, we have had students who went on to Manasquan and other high schools who graduated first in the graduation class, or in the top ten. Proof is in the success of BES students. Also, what is being taught presently is mandated by the state of NJ with little or no variation.

    Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 9:58 am | Permalink
  45. Guest wrote:

    #41 – Unfortunately the parents turn a blind eye to the strict leftist teachings and just hope that it will all just someday go away. America is in trouble.

    Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 10:06 am | Permalink
  46. Summer Timer wrote:

    #43…. Yes that comment changed the test score along with the perception of the Belmar school system…. Problem solved….

    Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 10:27 am | Permalink
  47. Anonymous wrote:

    #41. What leftist teaching? With the state mandating the testing, the testing has determined the curricula for the last ten years or so. What blind eye? All the teaching materials, books, teachers’ plans, etc. support what is outlined in the testing. There is no room for any radical ideas. .

    Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 1:58 pm | Permalink
  48. Guest wrote:

    Belmar Elementary School grad,

    Mic drop…..

    PHD student at Harvard https://www.linkedin.com/in/abraham-waldman-256a15a6

    Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 3:45 pm | Permalink
  49. Summer Timer wrote:

    #48… Nice, I am happy to see this success story… But plan and simple, overall Belmar test scores do not support no child left behind….

    Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:17 pm | Permalink
  50. Terry Pierce wrote:

    We should all have a nickel for every scholarship awarded to high school kids from all over the state from the Carpenters Union for higher education.
    You might also like to know there are people with college degrees working for the Unions. Because you are a union member doesn’t mean your brain no longer works.

    Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:31 pm | Permalink
  51. Tulip wrote:

    There is a liquor license on 4th and
    Ocean Ave.
    There is one on 5th Ave.
    There are 2 on 8th Ave.
    There is 1 on 10th Ave.
    We just don’t behave in a nasty way but
    we can walk if we care to in the No. end of town to have a drink.

    Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:45 pm | Permalink
  52. Tulip wrote:

    I forgot 9th Ave. and 10th Ave. on the
    Highway for a longer walk.

    Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 7:50 pm | Permalink
  53. Anonymous wrote:

    #41-With recent knowledge of what’s going on at BES. Not one teacher has ever spoken against the country. There never has been any report of this by a parent, nor has it ever been noted or observed by anyone ever. History is taught the way it is typically written for school age children. Learning about the community in the lower grades, fourth grade is New Jersey history, fifth grade is the explorers of North America, and grades 6,7,8 the early history of the creation of our country, through the world wars, through recent wars including the presidential elections and events during the various presidential eras. The information is taught in an objective way. In the last few years students graduating from BES continue to do well in High School, and do as well as those from other sending districts.

    Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 10:45 pm | Permalink
  54. Anonymous wrote:

    #41-Never has the country been downgraded by any teacher ever at Belmar School. Not ever. This would not be tolerated by parents or the community at large. No child/student has ever come forward with these accusations. Kids talk about school at home. Never, ever have there been reports brought home of this nature. Very disturbing accusations. Very sad.

    Saturday, February 3, 2018 at 10:52 pm | Permalink
  55. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    Ladies and Gentlemen – Say and believe what you like but I stand by what I said above. All lucid people know the teachers of today are at least liberals and many of them are Marxists if not actual communists. I’m sure they stay to the curriculum, but they present it in such a way as to belittle our nation and it’s outstanding history.

    Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 5:18 am | Permalink
  56. Summer Timer wrote:

    This string of comments is amazing and politics at its worst. The article attached is titled “Where Do You Rank” and Belmar ranks pretty low. Many of the responses are from school supporters that have nothing to do with answering the question, WHY ARE THE SCORES SO LOW? One of the responses is we are trying, well that’s not good enough, its time for a change in the education system, and hopefully Betsy DeVos will make it happen. And to all the BOE members, teachers and school administrator that will say come to a meeting and get involved, here is my answer. YOU SIGNED UP FOR THIS TAKE RESPONSIBLITY FOR YOUR FAILURE AND GET IT RIGHT, I HAVE A FULLTIME PLUS JOB………

    Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 7:38 am | Permalink
  57. Anonymous wrote:

    #56 Summer Timer Paul’s is open at 7AM most of the residents have voted for a Mayor that prioritizes the awarding of Liquor Licenses over finding why BES is so bad. A high ranking school system also does increase property values.

    Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 8:54 am | Permalink
  58. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    #56 – You’re thinking. But I disagree with some of your points. For example, I want the Dept. of Ed. abolished (let the DeVos woman get a real job). This is not about “scores”, and it’s not about these characters taking responsibility (they’re in the job only to acquire money – every so often a real teacher comes along and they conspire to get rid of him/her). As far as actual education goes, the entire obsolete system should be torn down and a real system put in it’s place with real teaching methods set up for these children nowadays (it would probably mean the end of brick and mortar schools). I also believe public school shouldn’t be compulsory. It should be a parents right to send their child to school, or not. Not the states.

    Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 9:31 am | Permalink
  59. A Voter 2 wrote:

    #58 Tom i agree with you somewhat. One of the problems is the teachers just do what they are required to do they are union all paid equally why would you work harder when the others do the minimum. They are not problem seekers just go with the flow. There was a teacher, i don’t remember where she was from. The school had an attendance problem, she asked questions and found out most of the families were too poor to own a washing machine. She raised some money and the school installed washers and dryers. Attendance went up scores and grad rates increased dramatically. The teachers of today are more interested in being politically correct and are not problems solvers.

    Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 9:52 am | Permalink
  60. Summer Timer wrote:

    #57… I am not a fan of the Mayor, but don’t blame the poor school system on him… The Mayor and council have absolutely no power over the Belmar school system… They are two totally separate entities… There are numerous thing we can blame on the mayor, but this issue is clearly not his fault…

    Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 11:01 am | Permalink
  61. Anonymous wrote:

    #55&58-Teachers of today work harder than ever, and care deeply about their students, especially at BES. Your remarks are unjustified. Have you sat in every classroom over a period of time to witness what and how information is being presented? I’ve been involved with many schools, have sat in judgment of these schools, and there is no more a caring and dedicated staff than the BES staff. No one has ever transferred a leftist idea or communist ideology. Stating such things is purely speculative and untrue. There has never been anyone who has accused teachers at the fantastic Belmar School of such things as claimed in some of these posts. Belmar Grammar School can tout an excellent, unbiased staff that cares deeply about each and every one of the students under their supervision. There is no slanting towards any ideology.

    Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 11:30 am | Permalink
  62. The Commish wrote:

    I have read all the glowing comments regarding the teachers and have to ask why than are the scores so low? What is being done to raise them? Who should be responsible for the low scores? Responsibility starts at the top. The Belmar BOE spends $22,000 per child and getting sub par results. If this were the private sector you would be replaced.

    Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 1:17 pm | Permalink
  63. Summer Timer wrote:

    #62…. You are exactly correct… Thank god there is another person on the blog that gets it… You made my day!!!

    Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 1:57 pm | Permalink
  64. Anonymous wrote:

    #62 The results speak for themselves. Chime on how they work hard and care, the results do not show that. The leadership needs to get a handle on what is going on and how to improve it if they can’t they should resign. If Belmar’s total residents were 100% year round they would not put up with the results.

    Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 2:46 pm | Permalink
  65. Summer Timer wrote:

    #’s 62 & 64…. You are the voices of sanity…. Thank you….

    Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 4:51 pm | Permalink
  66. Anonymous wrote:

    #62-every hear of individual differences ? While all schools need standards, not all children learn/ process information in the same manner and rate. I taught in another district in another state. I had a student who entered sixth grade at a fifth grade level, a year behind. When she left my class, her test scores had improved a whole year . She was still not on grade level, but the improved scores showed she was learning at her own pace. Some students are poor test-takers. Doesn’t mean they aren’t learning. Rest assured there are students who score splendidly on the state exams at BES. Look at the breakdowns before painting the school with a substandard brush. You can only speak to these testing topics if you have taught in the public sector. Understanding the various levels of learning is key in educating children.

    Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 5:33 pm | Permalink
  67. Anonymous wrote:

    Go to TapInto to find out all that’s being done to improve scores at BES. Google BES state test scores, and a very informative piece will come up.

    Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 6:58 pm | Permalink
  68. OLD MAN wrote:

    #66 Excuses Excuses Excuses Excuses Excuses.#62 is correct. It’s a mad house. Status quo prevails

    Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 7:11 pm | Permalink
  69. Anonymous wrote:

    Check it out Old Man. No excuses. Just fact. Have you taught children? They have different learning styles and capabilities. Why don’t you believe this? Do you honestly believe that all students learn at the same level and competency? Success is measured by progress. No excuses here. Take it from a person wh has been there. Every success, every step of progress, no matter how small, should be recognized and praised.

    Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 8:16 pm | Permalink
  70. Summer Timer wrote:

    #66… Please dont say “You can only speak to these testing topics if you have taught in the public sector.” What exactly does that mean??? You are smater than me, I dont understand??? Every enity needs a benchmark and the state tests are the school systems report card.. The BOE, teachers and administration got a poor grade… Deal with it, dont defend an issue that needs to be addressed….

    Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 9:12 pm | Permalink
  71. Anonymous wrote:

    70-What are talking about? Silly remark. I’m not suggesting I’m smarter than anyone. Only that experience as a teacher brings to the argument real-life scenarios of teaching children with different abilities to learn and master academic skills. Although I don’t think I am smarter than you, I do question your unwillingness to understand a point of view of someone who has been involved with educating grade school children for a very long time. The tests don’t tell the whole story. I will continue to state my point of view, whether you accept it or not.

    Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 11:19 pm | Permalink
  72. Summer Timer wrote:

    #71…. Numbers dont lie people do… Numbers are absolute by definition and individuals try to manipulate the results… These tests are not that difficult and the vast majority of the student should have the educational wherewithal to achieve the minimum acceptable score… The NJ public school system is extremely expensive to fund and the tax payers should have to accept failure…

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 5:50 am | Permalink
  73. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    Interesting that there’s all sorts of talk of money being spent but almost zero talk of money being stolen from American taxpayers by the presence of the children of illegal aliens. Does this mean money stolen (theft of services) for so-called “education” is somehow better than other stolen money? Also, it is the presence of these children of illegal aliens who bring the overall test scores down. They’re just not smart enough to make it in this society. So we have the scenario of after they steal the money for the so-called education, they will enter upon the welfare system. That’s their future. sorry to say but it’s all about IQ at this point.

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 6:44 am | Permalink
  74. admin wrote:

    The opinions expressed in the comments section do not necessarily reflect the views of the publisher.

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 7:29 am | Permalink
  75. Summer Timer wrote:

    #73…. Every child deserves an education, period end of story… We are not a third world country, that your statements reflect…

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 8:12 am | Permalink
  76. Anonymous wrote:

    My kids graduated from Belmar School not too many years ago. All are doing great. On to college and good jobs.

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 9:16 am | Permalink
  77. Aileen Fahy wrote:

    Yes #73 Even special needs children. And they take the same standardized tests as everybody else.

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 9:19 am | Permalink
  78. Anonymous wrote:

    73-There was a picture in the Coast Star recently of the Superintendent of BES with two students who achieved academic success, and were being recognized. One was an Hispanic student.

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 9:43 am | Permalink
  79. Hysterical... wrote:

    Mark Walsifer was on the BOE for years up until he got elected to the Council. He did on the BOE exactly what he is doing on the Coucil, absolutely nothing! He never asks questions, suggests solutions or even opens his mouth except to agree with what everyone else says. Cut and dry the school is failing despite all the “love and care” the teachers and BOE have for the students.

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 10:18 am | Permalink
  80. Anonymous wrote:

    79-School is not failing, nor has it be designed so by the state. Scores are on the upswing. Programs are in place to help students achieve.

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 10:26 am | Permalink
  81. Summer Timer wrote:

    #80… Until the Belmar scores reflect that the vast majority of the children meet the minimum standard the school system is a failure…. Also how about the current councilman thats a teacher… He is not a go getter, nice guy, but just doesn’t get it done on the council… I would be willing to bet same non – achiever, when teaching…

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 10:53 am | Permalink
  82. Fact Finder wrote:

    73-For the heck of it, I checked out a recent honor roll listing for Belmar Grammar School. For 6,7,8 grades. High honor roll, average 93 or better: 7 had Hispanic names. Second honor roll, average 85 or better, but not higher than 93: 17 students had Hispanic last names. By the way, our family Doctor has an Hispanic last name.

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 11:16 am | Permalink
  83. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    #s 75,77,78,82 – So, if I understand you correctly, you’re all in favor of theft/criminal behavior. Is that correct?

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 11:30 am | Permalink
  84. Hysterical... wrote:

    That is even funnier, having so many “honor roll” kids and yet still failing State tests! What is wrong with this picture?!

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 11:33 am | Permalink
  85. Fact Finder wrote:

    It’s the law of the land. Supreme Court ruled on this in the ’80’s.

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 11:57 am | Permalink
  86. Fact Finder wrote:

    #84-Testing doesn’t give the whole story of student achievement.

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 11:59 am | Permalink
  87. Fact Finder wrote:

    All children, born here or not, are entitled to free public school education. So says the Supreme Court.,

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 12:02 pm | Permalink
  88. admin wrote:

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  89. Summer Timer wrote:

    #83… These are children that were either born in the US making them citizens or the parents brought the kids here illegally…. You cant deprive a child of an education based on events they have absolutely no control over… Your thought process will definitely create a welfare state…. Give every child a fair opportunity to be GREAT!!!!

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 12:35 pm | Permalink
  90. Anonymous wrote:

    #83-take your case to the Supreme Court. Check out the ruling on this.

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 12:52 pm | Permalink
  91. Hysterical... wrote:

    “Testing doesn’t give the whole story…”, well your comment sure does! Excuse after excuse. Exactly describes what is wrong. It’s the demographics, it’s the special needs, it’s the standardized tests, it’s the families who can’t afford to feed their own kids…always an excuse! The school is FAILING. But hey they are trying, so who really cares anyway, right? Let’s all be complacent and just accept the status quo of BES. We should give them all awards and caring ribbons, that will get them far and make them feel better!

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 2:17 pm | Permalink
  92. Anonymous wrote:

    School isn’t failing. No excuses, just facts. Great school, not listed as a failing school by the state, scores are improving. Excellent performances by students. Staff is working hard . Programs are in place designed to assist students. Remember no two children are the same. They think differently and perform differently.

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 3:00 pm | Permalink
  93. Summer Timer wrote:

    #92… Then the test results must be a misprint… Please show me the favorable test results for ALL the students… Numbers dont lie!!!! Please shown me….

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 3:53 pm | Permalink
  94. Anonymous wrote:

    Didn’t mean that all students show great test results. Students are working along with their teachers to improve. Meaning that day-to-day students are doing their best to improve. The word ” performance ” covers a lot of ground.

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 5:41 pm | Permalink
  95. Summer Timer wrote:

    #94… This what the issues is… Your previous statements are pushing everything on the students… “students are working to improve”… We need a new disruptive thought process, the teachers should be working harder and also work on improving teaching techniques…. Then and only then will we see the improvement in test results everyone wants…

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 6:46 pm | Permalink
  96. Anonymous wrote:

    They are working hard as instructors. Pushing all on the students?? Of course the teachers are accountable!

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 7:41 pm | Permalink
  97. Tulip wrote:

    How can a student learn if he speaks and understands Spanish only and the teacher English only. Then we get into the classes being taught English.
    Do they have English only in those classes? How does a Hispanic speaking student learn English.
    I think as a resident, when you consider the numbers on the tax bills
    we are all entitled to know questions that are never answered.WHAT IS GOING ON? Everyone speaks of private school.
    What does it cost per student that does’t speak or read and write English?
    If we pay the bills we have the right to know.

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 8:03 pm | Permalink
  98. Anonymous wrote:

    #84-Hysterical-maybe the honor roll students were the ones who scored well on the state tests. Just responding/reacting to your comments.

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 8:33 pm | Permalink
  99. Anonymous wrote:

    I think this thread has lost its way. Let’s see what Murphy does.

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 10:03 pm | Permalink
  100. Anonymous wrote:

    Many children only spoke their native language at home and once enrolled in kindergarten they learned English and were very proud of their accomplishment.
    They became interpreters for their families and some neighbors. In our Elementary School I envied those kids because they were smarter, they spoke 2 languages and had no problems with Latin, French or Spanish lessons. They were challenged and ultimately surpassed many as a result of being bilingual. Not unheard of in the ’50s. Children are capable of learning when taught respectfully.

    Monday, February 5, 2018 at 10:11 pm | Permalink
  101. Tulip wrote:

    Are all the teachers in BES bi-lingual I heard that was all they were hiring. I hope it was only gossip. The longer we live here the harder it is to afford it. The school is out of control if it was the way it was meant to be and the residents were sending their kids there we wouldn’t have the tax bills we have.
    Which brings us to Teachers where do you have a requirement that allows Spanish only? Why are we accepting illegals? Why are kids being dropped off by cabs when most kids walk unless parents drive them? The schools have to start answering questions sooner as well as later. We want to know.

    Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 11:33 am | Permalink
  102. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    Children are capable of learning when taught respectfully.
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    #100 – Correct, but in the case of the vast majority of Mexican children, they can only learn up to 5th-6th grade or so. After that, they’re pretty much done. Not to mention the small matter of “theft of services.”

    Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 2:19 pm | Permalink
  103. Anonymous wrote:

    Dave turn this faucet off.

    Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 3:58 pm | Permalink
  104. admin wrote:

    Actually WordPress must have added capacity because it’s accepting comments.

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  105. Anonymous wrote:

    Hispanic students going on to high school have made the honor roll . Many go on to Brookdale, then transfer to four year colleges. If these students are born here, which most of them are, they are U.S. citizens. The idea that they peak at 5th and 6 th grade levels, and then are incapable after that isn’t so. Theft of services ? Not in the eyes of The Supreme Court. Parents may be undocumented, but the children born here are US citizens.

    Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 6:33 pm | Permalink
  106. Anonymous wrote:

    Stop this INSANITY. Children are gifts from God.

    Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 7:22 pm | Permalink
  107. Summer Timer wrote:

    #102… Based on your comments, it appears your IQ peaked in 5th or 6th grade….

    Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 9:13 pm | Permalink
  108. Anonymous wrote:

    Totally agree, #106!

    Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 9:15 pm | Permalink
  109. Eugene Creamer wrote:

    We work hard for our money.
    We are now a family.
    We send our children to school.
    We buy children books.
    We watch the children eat the pages

    Tuesday, February 6, 2018 at 9:42 pm | Permalink
  110. Anonymous wrote:

    #109-Your comment makes no sense.

    Wednesday, February 7, 2018 at 3:14 pm | Permalink
  111. Guest wrote:

    I don’t understand why the school doesn’t verify the residency of each student at the beginning of the school year. This is common practice at nearly every other school.

    Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 12:23 pm | Permalink
  112. legion wrote:

    Which children does the school feed? Only the ones from low income families? Some or all?

    Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 1:14 pm | Permalink
  113. Anonymous wrote:

    111. They do verify residency as children are registered . Of course! Families use addresses of relatives, friends, etc to have their children get seats at BES!

    Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 6:34 pm | Permalink
  114. anonymous wrote:

    # 26 I sent my child to St.Rose because I attended a Catholic School. After a few years decided the public school might be better. I visited BES and to my surprise the classes were very segregated. The white students from town were in one class while the Hispanic children were in another. So even though you claim diversity there was segregation because of ability in learning. I find your comment offensive on those who choose not to attend BES. Years ago when the population of enrollment was declining,Dr Richens reached out to build their enrollment at the expense of Belmar residents. This included not checking who was really living here. It is odd to see cars with Maryland Pennsylvania and the Carolinas attending our school. That’s one hell of a commute!Tenants also keep their children enrolled in BES after moving to other towns because of the pre school service. LANLORDS never call the school to say their tenant left and children should no longer be enrolled,so we keep paying for people from other towns. It was all overlooked as it still is to get as many children as possible to keep that place going.The lack of communication between all agencies in town feed the waste of our tax dollars. It should be run like a business and if the CEO stinks then replace the person in charge of every department. In the end I choose a school with a tremendous amount of diversity that truly cared about education. When you say the color of their skin and throw the race card you are dead wrong. A strong rating of the school would bring everyone to want to attend there. Clearly by their rating , something is and has been very wrong.I am offended that 3 quarters of my taxes contribute to that rating. They spend so much per student and its still a mess. Put people in charge that know how to improve it .Rentals should work closely with the housing officers to verify anyone who lives in this town. It too is overlooked and we all pay a high price for a sub par situation. This could have been cleaned up years ago but someone always profits somewhere .It’s like saying Detroit is trying hard!No one of any color deserves a bad education especially when so much money is given to make it right.BES will never get better until everyone on this blog shows up and stands up to change it!

    Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 8:17 pm | Permalink
  115. Anonymous wrote:

    Hypocritical people sent their kids out of district using friend’s addresses for years when the Asbury Park system was their only free option.

    Thursday, February 8, 2018 at 9:12 pm | Permalink
  116. Guest wrote:

    #114 well said and thank you! People try and paint those of us who want landlords fined for allowing multiple families living in a single family home (which is a fire hazard as well as an unfair burden on the school system) and who want the school to actually verify residency each year as racists when all we are really trying to do is protect the taxpayer. I’m perfectly happy for my child to attend a school with other children who are legally living in this town whether they are black, white, hispanic, Asian..it doesn’t matter. And thank you for also pointing out that the major reason most residents choose to use another school as opposed to Belmar is bc of the failing numbers not bc of the racial makeup of the school.
    And you’re right, the commenters on this blog need to speak up to the BOE and the council.

    Friday, February 9, 2018 at 12:26 pm | Permalink
  117. anon wrote:

    # 114 You are close to the root of the Belmar school district problem. The dates escape me but 70’s/80s it was determined that enrollments would continue to be expanding so we OKed an expansion of school facilities in the Richens era and spent a good sum of $$$ to do so. Well soon after the construction the code enforcement changed from ultra lenient to very strict and the expanding student population fell on its tookas. Very unsettling, all that new space without demand. Had the schools managers known what the boro was going to do they would not have pushed the referendum to expand. Had there been no expansion and a strict code enforcement regimen we would be in an entirely different situation today but this is all a governing issue so why would it not be expensive to the taxpayers? Sorry for the ancient history lesson.
    And i have no desire to get into the immigration issues but less school capacity and forcing landlords to abide by strong standards along with suitable fact checking by the school administration on residency would no doubt produce smaller class sizes and hence improved education.

    Saturday, February 10, 2018 at 10:39 pm | Permalink
  118. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    , the commenters on this blog need to speak up to the BOE and the council
    ——————————————
    #116 – Alright, I’ll start going back to the BOE meetings because you said so. You know of course the BOE members will curse you (whoever you are) for sending me back among that pack of liars. They don’t take it well being called liars to their faces.

    Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 6:27 am | Permalink
  119. Anonymous wrote:

    #118-Give an example of how they lied.

    Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 11:16 am | Permalink
  120. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    #119 – Sir, I don’t usually take part in this type of thing (examples) but in this case I will. Beneath is a science project done by a HS student in Cal. Of course, it was pulled out of the program. It has some non PC data in it. Our BOE and school administrators are fully aware of this but lie to the public. If you don’t think that kid knows enough, look up Dr. James Watson’s (Nobel prize winner)remarks on the subject of race and intellect (very, very non PC).
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    California school science project that connected race and IQ is pulled …

    http://www.foxnews.com/…/california-school-science-project-that-connected-race-and-iq-is-pu...
    16 hours ago – The project was part of the science fair at C.K. McCatchy High School, the report said. (Google View). A science fair project at a California high school faced criticism earlier this week after it compared race and IQ levels in connection to participation in an elite program at the school, The Sacramento Bee …

    Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 2:35 pm | Permalink
  121. Anonymous wrote:

    #120-I’ll follow up on this with the staff of BES. Parents should have a say. What other lies can you site ? You stated the plural of the word lie in your original statement.

    Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 4:10 pm | Permalink
  122. Ur crazy is showing wrote:

    Oh my Mr. Dilberger, I think your crazy is showing. A handful of students took an I.Q. test for this “study” you speak of. I guess you’re not familiar with the scientific method, but this “study” is not it. And Watson is certainly a genius when it comes to molecular biology, but this thing he said that you call “proof” about race and I.Q. is his statement that people who employ blacks will tell you they’re difficult. I suggest you stick with this blog and not waste the BES’s time with your silliness. Or maybe you can try The Coast Star again. It’s been awhile since you were caught writing 2 articles in one week: one as yourself, and one as Nathan Forrest, the original Grand Wizard of the KKK. A reader alerted The Coast Star and the paper confirmed it was in fact you and apologized to the rest of us for the mistake. If you want to come to a meeting, by all means. Maybe our trusted Admin can come too and video tape it for all to see. But be careful because when you go to those meetings your crazy does come out.

    Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 9:21 pm | Permalink
  123. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    #122 – You remember that. That was fun using Forrest’s name. Just one of my little pranks. They did get their panties in a knot over that.
    —————————————-
    As far as the article goes, I just brought it up to show that people know there is a connection between race and intellect. As I said, the staff of BES are well aware of it but understand if they ever mentioned it they’d be thrown out immediately and their careers would be ended. Certainly, the BOE knows as well even though their own combined intellect is somewhere that of a brain damaged gerbil (I mean that only in the best way). I’m sure Hallman will be overjoyed to know I’m coming back. Pass the word, will you?
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    As far as my being crazy, I think I’m no crazier than any normal man of my age, height and weight. See you at the meeting.
    ——————————
    Yes, I will be back. It ought’a be a hoot again.

    Monday, February 12, 2018 at 5:29 am | Permalink
  124. Ur crazy is showing wrote:

    You sound like Claire in that one….

    Monday, February 12, 2018 at 8:16 am | Permalink
  125. Aileen Fahy wrote:

    Hey this is fun. Why don’t the bloggers and the BOE members take IQ tests and we can settle it once and for all. 😉

    Monday, February 12, 2018 at 8:42 am | Permalink

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