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Have to say Mark Levis did a good job with both of his answers and I really liked what he had to say about over-development and PILOTs.
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143 Comments
Mark Lewis is still a democrat. Can’t rrust him. Need to get the Republicans in and give them a chance.
Mark Levis is a vote for the same crew who’s been controlling our town. Just look at who is his campaign manager is! I’m sure he’s a nice guy-just like Matt. Well played!
Doherty/Levis makes everyone nervous. He poopooed Rhode Island Point residents and that in and of itself tells a big story about the Mcdirty clone. Hope we don’t have to go through the ringer with Mcdirty clone.
Let’s be real. Maggie is still running the show. I’m sure she was the one that answered the Democrats questions for them just like she made those videos on Facebook. And by the way, Magovern is a dope! I saw on the website that he misspelled his own name on his campaign report! Duh!
http://www.belmar.com/useruploads/files/dems_29daypre.pdf
As I was reading this article McGovern says that development is good as it creates ratables. I’m thinking, aren’t all these new developments part of the PILOT program? Of course they are. Then I read Walsifers response and he condemned the PILOT program which is a scam to the taxpayers. It only allows the greedy developer (Depeppe) to give potential buyers an incentive to buy. Walsifer is spot on.
McCracken has more in common with Doherty than Levis. He gave $5 thousand to Christie and then got a $100 thousand appointment.
Everyone is against PILOTs. They only incentive buyers at the taxpayers expense. Grow a pair and call a spade a spade. Who wouldn’t want to live or visit in a borough bounded by the OCEAN and MARINA. I take that back. The Marina was a jewel b4 Doherty and Brian, et al made the disasterous, outragous drain on our resources deal with Marina Grille.
As a senior citizen who grew up in Belmar, now living in the senior building, I am once again appalled by the monstrosity being built at 10th and RR. When I look out my south facing window it sickens me to see the overdeveloped od this once quiet, be loved seashore town. I thought the view being blocked by the Marina Grill was the worst decision ever made but I guess I was wrong. All the seniors in the building see it and are voting for change!
Walsifers and Levis both answered well. But will they do as they say????
# 6 you are correct. He doesn’t understand how things work. Dangerous for Belmar if he’s at the helm.
Dave, I agree with you! At the few meetings I’ve attended, Mark Levis has been great. It’s obvious he’s an independent thinker, he cares about all residents and is smart. Those three attributes make up the criteria for my vote.
Mark Levis is a blessing to the town. He is a well-spoken and a independent voice on the council. He investigates all sides of issues and topics before offering an opinion. Mark casts his votes in the same manner-after educating himself about what’s at hand.
Mark Levis must have changed his stripes or is just posing for the cameras because the one I remember couldn’t say a bad thing about Dirty Doherty and was all for the pavilion, the Ashbritt no bid contracts, and every other scam the last administration was pulling. I have a hard time believing him.
McCracken doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy I can go bowling with. You can’t trust a guy like that.
Don’t believe Levis…trust me.
I looked up Mark Levis on Facebook to see what his positions were in Belmar for the last couple years. Looks like it was made private or wiped. Why hide this information? I believe it important to see past stances. Aileen, any idea if he was for changing the pay to play law? Pavilion?
Simple……………..Vote Republican…
Walsifer will win. Dems are voting for him. Change is needed. The selling out of the pavilion to MM and the marina grill ruining the marina, the lifeguard fiasco,,,ugh
Levis will be great for Belmar. He stands on his own at meetings and asks questions.
Go by the marina, and see all the boats with Trump flags flying boaters are pissed.
#3-What are you talking about? Levis is a fellow Rhode Island Pointer. He would definitely represent the interests of an often forgotten section of our town. Vote for Two Marks and a Pat!
Levi’s seems level headed and forward thinking. But I know he was a strong proponent of our former Mayor. This gives me major pause. I’d have to know his stance on some key previous issues.
1. Pay to play.
2. Buy a board money and board walk redevelopment.
3. The Taylor pavillion, both amount of it’s construction and it’s use now and the fact it is not open daily so the public can use it as promised
4. Merrymakers contract
5. Marina Grille contract
6. The appeals of lost lawsuits.
As much as I am open to moving forward I have to know each candidate’s opinion on these past issues that have forever altered Belmar. I know by their voting records Nicoly and McGoverns.
In my opinion it is not unreasonable to ask these questions.
Please just vote Republican and give them a chance. Democrats have ruined NJ!!!!
After reading the article it’s clear to me that Brian doesn’t understand how the PILOT program works. He literally says that the new development is needed to get “ratables” in order to pay for the increased cost of operating the town. Where to begin? The cost of operating the town is increasing BECAUSE of the new development. And perhaps if we were actually getting ‘ratables’ it would help pay for the increased costs. But we’re not getting ‘ratables’, Brian. The town is getting payment in lieu of taxes. It is an incentive plan for developers to build in blighted neighborhoods. In my view, is not necessary in a booming real estate market (and economy), not fair to the school, and not fair to the citizens in this town that have no choice but to pay their taxes (or ratables as BM likes to call them). There is nothing wrong with development. It is an important component to the social and financial health of any city or town. It needs to be done right, it needs to be within the parameters of the towns aesthetics, and it should play by the same rules as laid out by the boro’s property tax formula.
Brian’s utter lack of understanding of this important issue is enough, in my view, to disqualify.
To Anonymous: I “friended” Mark Levis on Facebook and I can see his page. IDK why you’re blocked. There are no details about his stance on pay-to-play, the pavilion, etc. Where and when did you hear him promote these things? If he stood up at a meeting we can check the video archives. He was not a councilman until AFTER the proposed 5 story building and privatized municipal, police and gym was scrapped. I was at that meeting and heard him say that he was relieved because he was totally against it. Brian MaGovern went on to say it’s a shame because he was looking forward to those ratables. (you read it right, ratables…frightening).
Levis understands what’s going on, is respectful of his fellow council people, but does not back down. I like him.
If the minutes were searchable it would be much easier to find out who said what when.
#8. And you all complained about the SALT property and how it would be detrimental to living – wait till that gets built on and your view of the water will be gone in that direction as well. When you sleep with the dogs you get fleas. But at least you have good music across the street and down the block at anchor and tenth ave
Isnt the new monstrosity at 10th ave and railroad, the one that was given the commuter parking lot for peanuts, supposed to allow for public parking there? Is the public going to be allowed to pull into the covered parking area or is the developer PeePee hoping everyone forgets about that part of the deal? I will not and will remind Mayor Walsifer about it when the time comes.
#29 I believe the public parking he provided is on 13th just west of the tracks.
Yes parking was moved from right in town to a few blocks away.
So Jen will handle the environmental problems in town by reminding people to reduce, reuse, and recycle? That’s a great idea. So when you swim at L street and contract a fecal borne illness, Jen will remind you to place your bottle in the correct bin. Her answers are non answers. Platitudes and talking points that are politics 101. Can anyone tell me the last time a road in town was paved? I’m not talking about the county roads that run through town. I’m talking about a Belmar Boro controlled street. It seems like it’s been years and a lot of the roads are in bad shape.
If I’m correct, it was the 13th ave lif and a certain number of spots at 10th ave location.
Admin, do you recall that agreement?
https://www.tapinto.net/towns/belmar-slash-lake-como/articles/building-with-60-apartments-enclosed-parking-to
#23-No one is interested in how you’re going to vote. Please don’t bring down with words and actions candidate Mark Levis as you did with other members of the council. Why are you interested in where Mark stands on previous situations? You want to dwell in
On things that went against your way of thinking. Why am I not surprised? Mark Levis is a very decent individual who well serve our community well. Don’t destroy his excellent reputation.
#33: Planning Board and Zoning Board.members were anointed and appointed by Doherty with the Advice and Consent of Council members on all the PILOT programs.
I care how I vote. And I never said a thing about Mark Levis not being a decent individual. Like I said in my first comment he seems level headed and forward thinking. You ask why I’m interested in a candidates opinion on past matters? How else can I decide how to vote? And why shouldn’t I ask? I believe his opinion on past matters are very important. To me as a voter. You may not care but I do. And I do not believe it is unreasonable. And I do not believe my concerns are in any way disrespecting him or his reputation.
22 “shared” parking spaces for retailers and Belmar school. I knew I read that somewhere. Ie; “public”. I’ll be sure to tell everyone to park there everytime they go shopping, eating and drinking in town. Thanks admin.
#34. Trina brought down members of the council? If so it’s about time.
If you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen, I says.
I am glad that Katrina is perceived to be a powerful force in Belmar. Listen to her. For one, I had hoped that she would have run for council.
#39-No one I know perceives her as a powerful force. She is perceived as a person who works hard at making people she dislikes look bad. She’s already digging around to find fault with Mark Levis. Then she will post what she finds to be disturbing ( in her eyes) on this blog.
Trina is a breath of fresh air in Belmar and an intuitive healer for many. She does her research and can guide if she us respected.
36-Why would it be important for you to know Mark Levis’s opinions about the past? He wasn’t involved in government, and why would opinions on past matters influence your vote? Let’s focus on what he’s done so far as councilman. He is his own person and speaks from his heart. You wish to continue to dwell on matters that you opposed which have nothing to do with Levis . He’s proven that he just doesn’t go along . What you state that you have to know his opinions on past issues makes no sense. So let me get this straight: if he agrees with on past issues you’ll vote for him? If he liked Mayor Doherty you won’t vote for him? Give it up. Ridiculous.
#42- I believe the issues of Katrina’s concern only originated in the past and are still active and on-going concerns, therefore she is not out of line to get his opinion on them. I too feel that all concerns of our town should be put on the table and Levi has an obligation to answer each and every one. After all, he or she needs to earn support of a vote, and just being a decent person only gets you the right to be in the position to answer them.
whoa – why care what candidates said (even before they were council people) in the past? Why wouldn’t we care? It’s statements like these that remind me to kick this Common Sense habit. Dave, I’ll keep in touch and hopefully catch up with any important findings you uncover, but I gotta kick this habit. Katrina – hang in there.
#42 Mark Levis’s opinions in the past are very important. If people change their past opinions because they are running for office they are just telling you what you want to hear. It’s really that simple!
42: Ones character is formed by myriad of life experiences. Why do you think candidates bleat on and on about “I was raised xxx; my views on debt, bonding, marijuana dispensers in Belmar is xxxx, this or that; where I went to school/when/why here, there and everywhere; I belong to this club and that one; I’ve been married, single, divorced or other and my accomplishments are xyz”. It’s because they want people, not only intimates, to know the journey they’ve thus far taken and why, to justify their candidacy and allow the public to get a little measure of the woman/man who will be guiding Belmar people and who will have access to Belmar purses. ANSWERING questions of candidates can measure a candidates Ethics, Integrity and quite frankly, honesty to voters. I don’t expect the news media to ask the questions that are asked by residents who actually live in Belmar. I’m not paid by a marketing company nor am I on anyone’s payroll.
The Democrats cared very much about the past opinions of now Justice Kavanaugh, and they used their knowledge of his thinking to attack him.
. ANSWERING questions of any candidate can help measure (in most cases) their Ethics, Integrity and quite frankly, honesty to voters. I don’t expect the news media to ask the questions that are asked by residents who actually live in Belmar. I’m not paid by a marketing company nor am I on anyone’s payroll.
The present is what’s important not the past. Mark Levis is a breath of fresh air, not Katrina. It’s obvious by the way he conducts at council meetings.
To dwell on non issues is a waste of time . Why are they non issues? Because all of what’s being brought up are fait complit, as the French say. What Levis thinks about what’s happening now is important to residents. He has built a fine reputation so far.
#47 – I’m with the dems. against Kavanaugh, but for a different reason. I don’t want anymore lawyers on the federal bench. They’re inexperienced people of the spoken and written word. They are not well rounded enough to weigh different information and come out with a reasoned, logical decision. This is what happens when we put people who have made their main goal in life never to allow themselves to have any difficult experiences to sit make critical decisions based solely on their supposed education.
We get these ridiculous, bizarre decisions from them. We certainly have more than enough successful laymen in our society (who’ve worked in the productive end of private enterprise) who will make fine justices.
It’s interesting to me that people haven’t posed questions for Levis about his future plans for Belmar. Commenters wish to focus on past issues of discontent. Not one of you chose to do so, that is focus on the future.
So, only speak when spoken to and ask me no questions and I tell you no lies is all we have to look forward to in the future and At Present?
Don’t be fooled vote Republican
The question is how did a 1 mile square
town get into the debt we are carrying?
The answer is ask the people that are
Sitting on the Council.
All of the residents could not have
Agreed to the debt we have.
It’s like a Ponzi scheme here in Belmar, Tulip and your holding the bag. Don’t raise taxes by mortgaging our futures has us on the proverbial cliff.
Retrospective questions must be answered in order to get the true metal of the man or woman who will lead. Otherwise it’s like Science fiction or alchemy gazing into a crystal ball. Bear’s history is destined to repeat itself unless there is a concerted effort on the part of leaders to reform the past transgressions, mistakes or whatever happened to our little town while leading us into a true 21st Century borough bounded by the sea. Remember, it’s not like Marina Grille or Merrymakers are going to dig us out of a hole through their beneficence.
48-What’s not ethical and lacks integrity is when someone wants to cast a person in an unfavorable light by suggesting he could be involved in wrong doings ( perceived wrong doings -repeat COULD BE-conditionally possible) . If he supports thus or so, I can’t vote for him.
Katrina always focuses on what SHE seems to think is the worst in people. “Let’s see where Levis stands on issues that I find objectionable”!…Give it up Katrina!
44-high drama on your part! You’re off the blog-perhsps
44-So you’re not going to tune into the blog. Great! Now we don’t have to read your inane remarks, or hopefully your husband’s pseudo-intellectual remarks. He takes a rather snooty tone when he disagrees with comments. Obviously, you and your husband have a high opinion of yourselves. No One Cares what you think! Thought you were good friends with the Dohertys and their children. Which side are you on? You support Katrina? You support Levis? Confused and not credible.
51-How can you generalize that lawyers are limited in life experiences? I know lawyers who have overcome horrific life experiences and are excellent, intelligent attorneys. They are also well-rounded with involvement in charities, church, and first and foremost their families. There you go again, finding fault with educated people. What have you got against educated people? I have a relative who is a lawyer. His life was tough. Overcame obstacles to complete college and law school. He is well rounded . He played sports, served in the military, and is a brilliant attorney. Hope he becomes a judge one day! He certainly will bring intelligence and fairness to the bench given his life experiences. I know other lawyers through him. They can talk on any subject, and are rich in life’s ups and downs.
51-Call me silly, but don’t judges need to know the law and how it applies to given situations? What bizzare decisions are you referring to? How can you possibly know of an individual’s life experiences, or for that matter, anyone ‘s life experiences, especially if you don’t know them personally?
I for one enjoy Aileen and Tom.
#61 – He certainly will bring intelligence and fairness to the bench
I’ve known plenty of guys who were/are intelligent but shouldn’t be judges. As far as “fairness” goes, that’s a child’s idea. We don’t need anymore child like judges. We’ve already got plenty of them.
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#62 – What bizzare decisions
If I’ve got to tell you, there’s no use holding a discussion with you.
64-you seem to think, or you imply lawyers are limited in experiencing life. How can you make that assumption? Please name a bizzare case decision that you know of. Do you follow federal law cases? You seem to dodge that question. I know lawyers who were very experienced with life’s good and bad times. They are highly respected in the county and state.
Hi Drama,
Thanks for your input. I’m not really confused and I’m not really ‘on a side’. Wanting everyone to be ‘on a side’ is exactly the problem. I’m just interested in honesty and transparency in our local government (Is that really a ‘side’?!?). I’ve spoken at a few council meetings and it’s pretty clear how I feel. And anyone that knows me would say that I do not have a high opinion of myself, pseudo or otherwise.
You seem a little confused though. And having my credibility questioned by someone who won’t even say who they are is more than a little ironic. But I have a feeling I know who you are. And I have to say, calling yourself high drama was a great choice.
The Fayhs are Belmar to the Core. Not blind to political party and use common sense.
Time to drain the Maggie / Matt / Colleen swamp. Clean the slate and let’s see what the Republicans can do. Maggie is running the Levis campaign and despite what he is portraying himsef as, Maggie will continue to pull his strings just like she has with everyone else that has given us the Belmar we have today. Look at the history of the way Matt came to power on the council as a fresh face that people liked. This is eerily similar. Maggie has the same path planned for Mark Levis. Don’t be fooled again Belmar.
#65 – They are highly respected in the county and state.
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YIKES – “Highly respected” in this state. You do understand we live in new jersey, don’t you?
Mr. D.-the meaning of the word fair is:,holding to standards and rules. How is that a childish meaning? Just read your comments. Holding to standards and rules is what judges do. Therefore, it’s an appropriate word when referencing the law. Calling it childish? I don’t get it.
How can you possibly state that lawyers are limited in life experiences? How many lawyers do you know on federal benches? Read some of the backgrounds of the Supreme Court justices. It will be an eye opener . You appear to resent people who are highly educated.
#65-Please reference and explain a specific reasons that you find fault with specific decisions handed down by NJ judges/ lawyers. You used the word Yikes. How do lawyers get away with not experiencing life as we know it? Are they so very sheltered that they have never experienced pain, disappointment and tragedy in their lives? How did they manage to do this? You suggest that lawyers live their lives in such a way that they don’t experience the hard ships of life-the experiences that build character and well-roundedness. If this is so, I wish they’d share their secret with the rest of us laymen!
#68-Maggie is not running the Levis campaign. What a stretch of the truth!
Anybody notice the Menendez and Como campaign ads on TV? GUESS Who?????
You figure out which poison to drink. Thanks very mucho.
Let it be said and let it be written.
Guide to win elections, Author “Anonymous”.
Name a judge that wasn’t a lawyer first dilberger.
Check out how former Supreme Court Justice David Souter lives his life. With simplicity and humility.
#68. I always thought TJ was the mastermind behind them.
66-I agree with you about high drama. Your answer was right on target. I went back to your previous posts. While they are well-written and make sense, you do take on a superior tone. Come down a notch and you’ll be fine.
Lloyd- I couldn’t agree with you more. The irony in all of the is the water pick situation. No one seems to want to talk about this issue; heavy emphasis regarding who is and who is not getting the water pick.
Byron “Whizzer” White was named to the Supreme Court by President Kennedy. Byron’s parents never finished high school, so his life wasn’t easy. He was an outstanding football player and all-around athlete, playing pro football for a time, and was a runner up for the Heisman Trophy. He had the intelligence to become a lawyer at the top of his profession, then appointed to the highest court in the land. There are many life lessons and experiences when a person is involved in sports, especially at the level Judge White competed. Imagine that? A well-rounded person AND a lawyer/ judge.
Also, Byron White served in the Navy during World War II, and received a Bronze Star for his service to his country. And a professional athlete who was a distinguished attorney named to the Supreme Court. Pretty well-rounded!
#80 – Correct. But don’t put people who are lawyers these days in the same class as Justice White. That’s what I’m talking about. The lawyers (not all of them of course – you would think that wouldn’t have to be said but these days people are just looking to be angry about everything – Lord protect us)are not well rounded enough people. They don’t do the type of things as Justice White. They’re one dimensional people for the most part. It’s
my view that there are plenty of intelligent, successful people in the productive end of society who would make at least as good, and at times better Federal judges than lawyers. It’s certainly time to look in that area of our population for good men. Lastly sir, why is it people are so impressed by sports? To me sports are something we did as boys and after that we were men and didn’t do what boys do anymore.
#82=Anti-intellectualism
82-Wouldn’t people who aren’t lawyers have to learn the law before they become judges? In order to do the job correctly. And to make good decisions, there are federal and local laws that would apply. They couldn’t rely on their good thoughts and experiences alone. I don’t see how this would work.
Apparently you never were involved with sports, 82. A matrix of quick thinking, physical challenges and life’s lessons involved. Sportsmanship also. Byron Whizzer White’s athletic accomplishments helped to creative the individual he became. Win or lose in competition, a person moves on. Don’t dwell on a loss. It’s over. Make it better the next game. While sports aren’t for everyone, don’t downplay the benefits of participating in sports.
#84 – Of course they’d have to learn the law. I’ve got a book of the law with me most of the time, 5 x3 1/2 inches – a copy of the US Constitution. That’s the law of the land. What you confuse with “law” is form/terminology, etc. There are two parts of law, the letter and the spirit of the law.
The people we have practicing law are people of the spoken and written word. They are attempting to make the words conform with their clients best interests. It is the judge who must determine between the wheat and the chaff of those words said in the courtroom. It is quite evident the majority of sitting federal judges are not up to that. It is long past time we try something different.
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What makes you think I didn’t participate in sports as a boy? I was on my HS football team and wrestled intramural. The rest of the time I worked, always worked from about 11-12 years old. But sports are the things boys do. Once I left HS, I was a wage earning man. I had no time for games anymore. None of us did then. I don’t understand this fixation on sports by adults.
Mr. D-You mentioned that “good men” could become judges from the general population. How about women? We have very fine women judges. They’re Lawyers, of course. Earlier you stated that lawyers aren’t well-rounded and haven’t experienced life as you know it. What an off the charts generalization. I can’t understand how you can make that statement. Lawyers are like everybody else . They live life as we all do. Good and bad things happen to all of us, the bad when we least expect it. Not many people have life served up to them on a silver platter.
Also, adults who play sports do it for a change of pace. They’re not slackers. Sure. You worked at an early age, and so did many others. A person who works to support his/her family six days a week might enjoy a soft ball game, or basketball on the seventh day. Doesn’t make them seem childish. How about people who enjoy watching sports on TV? Are they childish too? If that’s true, there are many, many childish in this country who enjoy a football or baseball game on TV. Another past time that you might not agree with.
#86 – “They live life as we all do”
Correct (except for people here and there like me), that’s one of the big problems, They’re into this new manner of living that makes them unable to be good jurists. All this sitting indoors distances people from the realities of our physical surroundings and blurs their understandings. At least, with people who’re part of the productive life of the society may get a wider perspective of things around them.
As far as what I’ve said of sports, things are not as innocent as you suggest. If it were as you say, just viewing a game here or there, there’d be no problem but that’s not the case. It’s a fixation, as I said. Grown men walking around with the names of these sports figures on their backs – disgusting. I don’t want anyone like that sitting on a federal bench. It’s even come to people having their coffins done up in nfl team logos. I used the word childish to describe these people. Let me change that to infantile.
87-If people don’t spend time outdoors they can’t become good jurists or judges? Disagree either way. Someone who perhaps lives a very Busy life might not have time to spend a great deal of time outdoors. How can they be discounted as a possible judge? Sports bring people together in a friendly way as they root for a favorite team. They wear shirts with team logos. How can that be a bad thing? The term Well-rounded takes on many Different viewpoints. You lock yourself in with narrow thinking .
#88 – So we disagree. I think this new manner of living indulged in by most people (especially those not in productive work like lawyers) is not conducive to logical thought processes which is paramount when it comes to thinking in any depth.
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As far as the sports go, once again, we disagree. It has replaced religion as the “opiate” of the people.
What does that actually mean? #87? Someone who doesn’t spend time outdoors is what? Not everyone-even very good, well-meaning , intelligent people who live full lives can’t do that. Many retired people do charity work, see to the needs of family and are involved with their churches. The “new manner of living ” means what? People learn about their surroundings in many ways-not necessarily outdoors. How can you make statements like that? There are so many opportunities for people to grow. I hope it’s not true that you think formal education is useless. What a bad message to send to young people. Kids that quit school early realize how wrong it is and have to go for their graduate equivalency . They find out the hard way that there are no opportunities for young people who don’t have at the very least a high school diploma. What will they do-spend time outdoors and do what? I also read on this blog that boys should throw rocks and climb trees as part of their education? Do you realize how off that sounds?
So if someone doesn’t spend time outside he can’t be a good judge and doesn’t lead a productive life # 87?
89-A few years ago a relative was in a nasty divorce. He was about to lose all contact with his children due to the vicious lies he ex-wife told about him in court. A wonderful, smart, caring lawyer worked overtime to prove that the ex wife was Lying. Thankfully my relative gets to see his children on a regular basis. How is the lawyer profession not productive? I’m sure others who have had great lawyers help them with similar circumstances will be weighing in.
Huck Finn, Tom Sawyer maybe?
#90 – The new manner of living is quite illusionary. It doesn’t fulfill what boys need in their early years. The diploma is merely a piece of paper, nothing more. It doesn’t come near telling a person’s real worth. There are many callings in life that don’t require a magic piece of paper such as the trades (dying for lack of young men).
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#91 – Many times, I think yes. The new manner of living is an illusion for the most part. It defies 50 centuries of wisdom and basic logic.
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#92 – There are always exceptions that prove the rule. You also didn’t mention the lawyers age. but you bring up another important subject. It used to be that a man and woman would decide on a divorce and do the right thing by each other. But now for some reason so many women want to absolutely destroy their husband. I was always stunned when I heard young men talk about women in the morning in the dressing shanty. I thought, how can they say these things? But sadly, it seems there is something to what they were saying.
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#93 – From your mouth to God’s ear.
Has anyone done a OPRA request for the CFO position? It would be interesting to see how many qualified people there are for the position that are passed up when it is handed to the Queen of Mean Connolly because “she was the best fit for the position” Of course she will be appointed after the election and prior to the New Year. I often wonder how we as residents have gotten ourselves into such a mess!
#95…I sent an OPRA request yesterday for the resumes. Let’s see how long they try to delay this one.
# 94-While working in the trades is honorable work, wouldn’t a person require a high school diploma? It is not just a piece of paper. It documents 12 years of learning while successfully achieving the required standards mandated by the state of N.J.
Mr. Dilberger -Just a piece of paper? You can’t be serious. A high school diploma is essential for securing any type of work. In fact, most places require a college degree, which can’t be gotten without a high school diploma.
What illusion are you referring to?
It was actually Huck Finn.
#97 & 98 – I don’t know about the other trades but we Ironworkers just require 10th yr. education. The rest is how well he does on our apprentice tests, unless of course you’re of one of the favored groups that requires a quota. Then of course, our test isn’t important. As far as the college degree is concerned, there are many college grads in the trades now. They did what they were told growing up and got good grades and then only got crummy jobs with their dumb diplomas and wound up in the trades after essentially wasting 4+ yrs. on “higher ed.”
100-Learning and developing intellectually is never dumb or a waste of time. Whether it be working in the trades or another line of work, learning, growing, is always a plus. Can’t be replaced, and education is always beneficial.
100-You’re joking, right? How would we have doctors and scientists who find cures for diseases without higher education? You have to be joking. You can’t be for real.
101 & 102 – Let’s be reasonable. Of course, education is needed for everyone. But not everyone is intellectually endowed to be doctors and scientists, engineers, etc. People have been told in the last 20-30 years or so that they must go to college or they will be failures and that’s not the case at all. Like everything we humans do, we go overboard. And that’s what we’ve done with the idea of education.
103 Finally you’re making sense! The best posting so far. We’re fortunate to have trades for people who aren’t inclined to choose college asa path in life. This is a different message than you’ve previously posted. You realize that a diploma is “not just a piece of paper” as you previously stated.
Mr. D-You finally are beginning to show respect for the diploma and learning in general. Hurrah! Your admission that higher education is needed in certain professions is a breakthrough for you, and a step in the right direction.
104 – Or are we fortunate to have colleges for people who aren’t inclined to do a trade for a living?
There would be a lot of homeless doctors out there if there were not tradesman to build their homes.
Well, if McMurphy and the Democrats have it their way, there will be FREE COLLEGE for everyone. Free as in no one pays for it??? Professors working for free??? No utility bills for college campuses??? Free college cafeterias served by workers who work for free??? Then you can have all persons aged 22 and up with college degrees, and with NO COLLEGE LOAN DEBT. Wow, these Democrats are really pretty generous. Vote the Democratic Party. NOT. Drain the swamp, make Trump proud.
106-Absolutely! I’m not underestimating the importance of men in the trades. Professionals and tradesmen are equally important in our society.
#104&105 – I’m not finally making sense (sense is logic – many people have big time problems with logic/sense), I’ve been making sense all the time. a diploma is just a piece of paper. It’s all about a mans worth – that never changes. Just because he can pass tests in his youth doesn’t mean anything. The worlds full of such people who never show anything in life.
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106 – we’re fortunate to have colleges but we’re unfortunate to have allowed so many children and young adults to have adopted this new manner of living that excludes them from their overall environment leaving the trades to an tawdry group of people from without our borders.
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#108 – To some extent the man who can perform productive work is of more importance in this point in time than the person who indulges in non-productive (the professions – especially law and medicine – as more and more AI comes to the fore) work in my view. We’ll see if I’m correct or incorrect in the not too distant future.
#109-You seemed to be making progress in your thinking, but now you’re regressing. Your thinking and remarks are astounding, and way off base. After you stated education is important, you are back to the square one. Making no sense. I think you have to be joking. How else could anyone explain your words?
Why would you want to explain my words? It seems you have a difficult time with basic logic. I would think you live this new manner of living yourself. That’s why you can’t follow conversations in any depth. I’m not saying that to hurt you only to point out that it’s the way you live that causes you to see things very much differently than myself who was brought up with the emphasis on Spacial reality/awareness.
111-What is this new way of living ? You mention it, but don’t explain it. Mathematics is my field. No problem with spacial relations. Your remarks are contradictory. In one conversation you infer that doctors are important and need education, and in another posting you state that they are non-productive. Please explain. How is that not understanding information on my part? These words are clearly your words.
I don’t know about others but I’m really getting nervous about the well coordinated Hondorous Caravan traveling to North America. I know first hand how scary it is when mobs come to Belmar when there is a lack of crowd control… anything goes and all laws of civility are thrown out the window. It’s the mob we are afraid of citizen or not. Wake up and smell a rat at Election time.
#112 – Good question? The new way of living is seldom interacting with the surrounding environment, living virtually an indoor existence from birth nowadays. My wife and I took a bit of a walk today (5-6 miles) and saw two people walk, one from the house to the car and the other parked the car and went into a house. This is the way it is all the time. Otherwise, the only creatures out were us, the animals and birds. This type of thing has never been seen in fifty centuries of history. The evidence of what I call [new manner of living] is everywhere right in front of us if anyone cares to see it. Why do you think the automakers are trying to develop self driving cars? It’s because of the new manner of living. Our young people don’t want to and aren’t able to drive efficiently. Everything is tied to it. Just look at the people. They’re very different from 50-60 years ago in every way (physically, intellectually and emotionally).
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#113 – I’d love to see the President use troops to stop these people before they enter the US and have a federal judge try and overrule him and the President defy the judges order. It’s long past time that the President puts these “federal judges” in their place. The people will back him big time and Congress will turn out the lights in their office and hide in a closet and do nothing.
114-Certainly spending time outdoors is beneficial to all. Physical benefits no doubt. There is evidence that walking helps the brain and eases stress. But I think much more is involved in developing intellect and ensuring emotional stability. You act as though the present generation isn’t great and that things were better 50 or 60 years ago. Things change, people change. Retired people such as yourself (apparently since you have time to walk 5 miles ) . People go to work. People have responsibilities indoors such as looking after elderly parents. Some young people have to work two or more jobs to support families. Good for you that you have all of the leisure time in the world to walk and be outdoors! You do know that Friday is a work day, right,( typical work day is 9am to 5 pm) and children are in school. You make it sound like the world is falling apart because people don’t spend time outdoors. Times are more demanding. Much more happening now. Many years have passed . People change, situations, and the world changes. Young people are great and know how to drive. How do they get to work? Young people are ambitious, they’re responsible and they take care of their families. The world is not as bleak as you would have folks believe. Why do you do that? You make like people are weaker and dumber than 50 or 60 years ago. So not true. I have had a team of doctors see to my recent illness-5 doctors in all. The oldest was in his early forties. They saved my life. The new manner of living ( whatever that means) is a good manner of living. You take on a superior attitude because you walk and you think young people are slackers and people should live the way they did decades ago. This can’t happen. Get with the times. The notion that you can’t take in the idea that people work during the day and can’t walk outdoors amazes me.
Good morning Sir, Interesting, but you misunderstand/misread me. I’m extremely saddened by what I see, not superior or anything like that. I know very well times change, but this “change” is very much more bad than good. Possibly with a person like me who has spent the major part of his life outdoors such a vast change is a total shock. I never thought I’d see the day that 400Lb people would lumber through stores. You mention doctors, they’re excellent and they’re bad. I’m horrified at this surgery being done on so many people. The mental differences are stark to say least. A friend of mine who teaches at Monmouth U. said it’s unreal the low quality of the students. But the worst part to me is I see us heading towards a “Brave New World” idea of life. In that world, it will be the government dispensing drugs/”SOMA”. But, the people will be “HAPPY.”
116-Now I can agree with you. Manner of living phrase doesn’t fly, but examples of your points of view are real. Many people are overweight; sad to see young people so out of shape. Why are so many people getting knee and hip surgeries? Seems overdone. While there are students who are not prepared for college, there are many who are doing well. This is where we part comes somewhat. Stay with real issues that make sense. Don’t go off with extremes and unreal situations and you’ll be credible. Stay away from ideas that will never be accepted, like boys throwing rocks and climbing trees as part of school curriculum. Give us your thoughts that are realistic. They are great thoughts and observations.
Sorry, but we disagree. From my vantage point [manner of living] does fly. You can’t expect people/humans to adapt to change at this pace. That is what you’re viewing. An epoch change on a dime. People simply can’t do it. They can’t keep up and maintain their sanity. The idea of throwing rocks and climbing trees is just an attempt at slowing things down and allowing people to ease into the new manner of living. The evidence of what I say is everywhere in front of our faces. All anyone has to do is recognize what they’re seeing. Look at these young people. Ask yourself why we have “autism” and we never had it before – nmol? Why do we have so many people on drugs – nmol? Why are there so many suicides – nmol? Why are so many of our young people so stupid – nmol? Why do so may people of all age groups dress so sloppily – nmol? Why does entertainment appeal to such a low base – nmol? the subject is massive and touches on every aspect of humanity.
118 Autism has always existed . It’s just in the last 30 years or so that the symptoms were assembled into a behavior system called autism. In The past the symptoms were the same-only not categorized into one disability. I’m older and can remember people I grew up with who didn’t have good social skills and limited with communication skills. At the time we called them “different.”
If the the symptoms were more severe we called them ” retarded.” Of course, these individuals weren’t retarded as we know it. Presently the symptoms have been classified into severe or least severe –called the autism spectrum.
Autism has nothing to do with ” the new manner of living. ” It has to do with a crossing-wiring of communication receptors in the brain. How do I know this? I have a family member who was diagnosed with autism at an early age, and I went to the neurologist with the child. It is a neurological disorder. Confirmed by a doctor at New York University Hospital.
119&120 – Think as you like but there didn’t used to be “autism” and now there is. What’s the difference? The new manner of living. It’s also interesting the vast majority of children “diagnosed” with this are boys. Yes, there have always been people who’ve been different but not like now. They’re just grasping a straws not wanting to admit it’s the new manner of living. And let’s not forget the Pharmaceutical companies making a killing on selling medications for these boys. It’s easier to say I’m wrong and even bad for knowing this. It’s not that I’m smart, only my having come to adulthood under a completely different concept and done what is considered primitive and “dangerous” (it was/is dangerous for people who live in the new manner) work, and watched this new manner of living develop step by step. It is fascinating though to watch as people struggle with the simplest things. But it’s also sad knowing the end is “Brave New world,” a completely drugged (supplied by the govt.) and spiritless zombie population.
Mr. Dilberger. Would you please consider starting your own blog page so you can debate people all day long, with whatever topic you please. These conversations go on and on, nothing to do with the main topic. And you poor admin. has to read and enter these opinions. Waste of time. Have a good day. Next topic.
#121-Autism is a neurological disorder. Nothing to do with the manner of living. Why are you being insensitive to the children diagnosed with this neurological disability? They are born with inability to communicate and relate to others. Have you ever witnessed a child with autism? Their hands flail and sometimes they rock back and forth-worst case scenario . There is a wide spectrum of autism disorders. I have a relative who has difficulty gathering his thoughts and relating to others. He is on the spectrum. What you say isn’t so just because you think it’s so. Don’t do what you are doing.
#122 – Okay, once I don’t find a response, I’ll stop posting on this.
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#123 – Everybody has relatives with all sorts of problems. It’s just part of living.
Just because doctors say something doesn’t mean it’s correct. My wife was an RN for many years and she says it’s called the “Practice” of medicine for a good reason. I know there are good doctors just like there are good people in every walk of life. But there are experienced people as well and my experience tells me the doctors are wrong on this subject. People didn’t used to be this way and now they are – What’s the difference? The poor children are being allowed to live improperly and you see the total mess we have and all you can think is I’m a bad guy – YIKES!!!
124- Autism is a neurological disorder. Children are autistic due to receptor issues. Nothing to do with manner of living. Children with autism are born with this disability, and show signs of this at an early age. I don’t think you know more than neurological experts in this field of medicine. But you think you do. If you’ve lived with an autistic child as I have, you would know how absurd your claim is. What a horrible claim, and so hurtful. But what do you care? You are beating this manner of living nonsense to death. Give it up. You know zero about autism, and what it means to love and nurture a child with autism. Your remarks are cruel and heartless. You are saying that my manner of living caused my child to be autistic? How wrong of you. All of the doctors involved with my son confirm over and over again that this a problem of communication due to receptor-cross wiring. But I guess your medical school education taught you differently. By the way, where did you earn your medical degree?
Wagner – Lohengrin Prelude – Wilhelm Furtwängler, 1936 – YouTube
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125 – Parent – I meant no disrespect and I’m not a hurtful person. The only thing I can say is I’m sorry for hurting your feelings. I’m an older man and forget that intergenerational conversation/communication is very difficult at times. When people of my generation speak to each other there are certain things that go without saying. When we speak to people younger than us, we forget the gaps in understanding that you live with and seem to blurt out hurtful things. For that I am truly sorry. Please accept this piece of music (one of my favorites) as my apology to you and your son/daughter.
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#126-Apology accepted. Please know any progress our child makes towards improved communications is a gift from God. We have created a loving home for our son with hopes that he continues to understand his world . He also receives support through speech therapy.
126- You constantly give the “my generation”excuse for your racist, misogynist attitude. My Grandparents were born in the teens (grandpa) and 20s (grandma) of the last century. They both lived through unspeakable hardships. Neither was a racist and both always saw the best in people of every generation. My grandfather had the utmost respect for all women and understood that we are ALL equal. So please save the “in my day” nonsense. You’re just an angry, bitter person that sites bunk ‘science’ to support your bigoted beliefs.
128-Couldn’t agree more. The author of 126, while contrite about being totally insensitive to the idea of autism, needs a wake-up call. Look at the history. He thinks students should quit school and find a trade, boys should throw rocks and climb trees as part of their school day, thinks a diploma is just a piece of paper, attended school board meetings and screamed, entered into a screaming match at a council meeting about 9-year olds planting huge trees on their own, and blames the ills of the world on what he calls ” a manner of living. ” There is great hope for our country ‘s future, in my opinion. No more need be said.
And 126 thinks young people are useless, which I so resent.
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#128 – Pointing out that we could do things and now we can’t isn’t “angry and bitter”, it’s just understanding there’s a new manner of living these days. Too bad you’re angry that someone notices. Here’s something that children used to do but don’t now. They used to be school crossing guards but now they’re not. Why then and not now? The new manner of living.
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#129 – Getting free of these “schools” would do a whole lot of boys a lot of good. You said huge trees, not me. But they could plant saplings like me and Brian talked about. It was one of the high points of my life when I was able to skip rocks. Easily, 9 out of 10 boys these days couldn’t skip rocks on a lake. They used to be able to skip rocks on water and now they can’t. What’s the difference? The new manner of living.
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130 – They’re only “useless” (not all of them of course, but I would think at this point it’s approaching a majority) because they’re being trained to be useless by their parents and the so called schools. They didn’t used to be useless and now they are. What’s the difference? The new manner of living. I’m for ending this and you wouldn’t let it go. The balls in your court.
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Lastly Gentlemen, enjoy the video.
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Why would skipping rocks ever be considered as part of the school program? Why is a diploma useless ? Why are you against education after the 8th grade? The “new manner of living ” is great! Young people are great. I’m surrounded by them in my work. Schools are great. School curricula are basically determined by the state Ed department. Standards have been raised. I love the new manner of living, and I’m not a young person. Street games are great, but not for school programs. Rock throwing belongs after school. People enjoy “the new manner of living.” Why were screaming about having young children
Plant trees? Why were you making inappropriate sounds? ( raspberries )when a person was talking about her Sister’s murder and gun control? You were asked to leave the meeting. So disrespectful. And you claim to be”old school?” You mocked a sister’s heartache. Where on earth could a student get a job with no high school years?
#132 – Not a bad post sir. But I cannot answer because it’d take too long. But the answers are in everything I’ve been saying over all these posts. As to getting kicked out of that meeting it was because the mayor politicized a sad situation and shouldn’t have (the two women had already left but that time). I’m proud of getting kicked out and if you’d or anyone else would like to meet me somewhere and talk this out I would make time for you. Yes, I would think people do “Enjoy” the new manner of living but in my opinion there’s more bad to it than good and I’m just pointing it out (I’m really sadden on the effect on the children by it). I’ll ask you a question sir. How can it be a good thing to not be able to do something as well as people who came before you? Why are people so angry about an old guy like me saying anything? Remember, Brian also said I was an old guy when I insulted him (a man wouldn’t have taken such an insult years ago and now they do. What’s the difference? The new manner of living.) and told him I’d give him satisfaction. Of course he’s just too scared of an old guy taking care of him so he copped out and said [oh, he’s an old guy] – in some ways I’m still the same kid in the school yard back in the late 40s, early 50s. There’s a vast area of living that doesn’t require a HS diploma. If a young guy gets a welding license, the sky the limit. When you drive your car look around. Stop and look at men working. I’ve asked construction workers when I’m out walking about hiring our young men and they say very bad things about our young men.
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Another thing that people don’t like me saying is there are just too many women teaching our boys/young men. This is nothing against women, just that after a certain age boys/young men need to be taught by men. It’s just the way we are – nature.
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I hope some of the things I’ve said have been helpful to you sir. Have a good day.
Yes TD, times change. There used to be no such thing as antibiotics. There was a time when a broken leg was a death sentence. What’s your point?
I’m just pointing out that you seem to be a pretty out spoken racist. That has nothing to do with skipping rocks. You also seem to think that women are inferior. That’s nonsense and it also has nothing to do with kids being different today than they were in yours. And guess what, your fathers generation thought your generation was a joke too. It’s a reality that’s been going on since we leaned to make tools out of rocks. Try to really look around and see the good in the world. Maybe encourage a young person that is courageously trying to make a difference in a world where people like you are constantly telling them they’re no good.
Start today.
Give it up everyone . No one can get through to Tom Dilberger. His small world is one of ignorance and nonsense . He’s convinced himself he’s right about all of his ridiculous claims. Just stop giving him an opportunity to talk about rocks, manner of living , his view of education, and so on. Let’s end it .
#134 – Sir, I never said women are inferior.
#135 – You can end this whenever you want. If I see in the morning there’s nothing posted I’ll let it go. But as far as your thought processes go I’m shocked at the intellectual sterility displayed by you people. All you can yell is I’m a bad guy over and over. Otherwise you’ve got nothing to say. [End it] – the ball’s in your court on that.
136-Much more has been said other than you’re a bad guy. Commenters have been very specific at what they find nonsensical about your remarks. What a cop out you’re displaying. Poor you. Everyone thinks you’re a bad guy . What they really think is you are a guy who has ideas that are absurd. You are questioning our intellectual ability /sterility? What a joke!,
136-Nothing to say? Did you read all of the comments on your thoughts about
education, tree climbing, quitting school in the eighth grade, doing raspberries at a council meeting ? Nothing to say ? I don’t think so.
The school system we’re using is obsolete and going to go down at some point. Your repeated howling will change nothing. I’m only making suggestions on how to limit the damage done to boys while they’re still under the yoke of this school Gulag. some other thoughts are to instruct them on knot craft and map reading and maybe they ca walk to the State police firing range in Sea Girt for a demonstration and lecture on the police weapons.
Mr. Dilberger, your tenacity is only rivaled by the former councilwoman who enjoys making meatballs. For that distinction, I give you an “A”.
Actually, I believe I understand your point overall and agree with much of your position. I have noticed a general increase in the lack of heart in so many people, not just kids, which I attribute to being plugged into electronic devices way too frequently. Taking a walk in the country or by the ocean, smelling the fresh air and appreciating nature can help restore some heart.
140-Doubtful-her husband isn’t well and she’s had serious stomach issues.
I hope she is doing well, as she is actually a kind hearted person. Lay off the acidic food. Dealing with an ailing loved one is stressful.
Hope you are feeling better you have my number and if I can help I will do
whatever you need. Terry
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