I was there that night a few years ago when the board voted to take the vote away from the people to vote up or down on the school budget. The vote was unanimous. What a bunch of scoundrels.
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But the main thing remains the schools are long obsolete. The yearly increases are just maintenance of life supports to keep the illusion alive that the schools are obsolete and have ben for many years now.
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The teachers and administrators should be retrained for jobs they may be able to do, like cashier in a dollar store or janitor or mowing a lawn, or possibly becoming an undocumented pharmacist, etc.
1-How would you change the education system, if the present system is obsolete? Please don’t offer climbing trees and skimming rocks in lakes as you have in the past. Boys only, according to you. Girls stay in the classrooms doing what?
I don’t get it. 0% raise in South Belmar and the maximum 2% increase in Belmar. Perhaps we should raise the rate per student we charge South Belmar. I just don’t get it. Tired of subsidizing the people of South Belmar, Police/Fire/First Aid/ and on and on.
#4 – The idea of climbing trees and skimming rocks is just the tip of the iceberg. While the boys are out, they should be taught everything from map reading/making/learning directions/reading time of day from the position of the sun/etc., identifying flora and fauna, knot craft, dressing correctly for weather conditions and kept in motion as much as possible. Reading goes along with it, reading street signs, etc. learning weights and measures, and constantly asked questions and always observed and reports given weekly by a good man. during inclement weather, the young boys could be brought indoors and taught to dance with the girls. At first of course, this would be a limited project, maybe twenty boys of ages, 9-12.
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But in no way should the lousy existing education people be involved in this project. They would of course do anything they could to destroy it. There’s much more. The subject is without end. The only known factor is the system we have is long dead.
#5 Lake Como is a sending district. Their taxes don’t directly pay for a school that’s located in another town. We charge them tuition, just as Manasquan charges us tuition.
6-What’s academic about your plan? How might someone go to college with this type of education? How would a young adult get into medical school with your plan? If your ideas were to be put in place, then education would have to change up to college and grad school. Practically speaking, I don’t think you plan would do the trick. Teachers by and large are excellent. All of my nieces and nephews, and there are many, came up with the present education system. All are extremely successful in their professions. They are well prepared for what they have undertaken, thanks to a nearby school district.
Education in it’s present form is to expensive. Teachers, principals, janitors, books,clerks, repairs, etc. Maybe programmed into into the brains of these snot nosed kids, Then everyone will think alike and the world would be beautiful.
#8 – Sir/Madam, I really don’t care much about academia as it is known now. I care about preparing young people to live in their physical world that surrounds us all. The people who see education as academic will find a way to get their education as has been done in the past for millennia. The rest of the people should be educated as broadly as possible. I’m only making a proposal. I’m sure there are people a lot smarter than us who have better thoughts, but these are mine according to what I see and my overall experience in life.
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Now, let me ask you a question. Are those relatives you mentioned tied to the education system we have in place?
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Lastly, I would advise you to get outdoors for several hours each day and experience our physical surroundings (very educational) and listen to the crows. Their conversations are really interesting.
Actually Tom Dilberger’s proposal mirrors the way many homeschoolers conduct parts of their day, and we find it to be extremely beneficial. Even for our more academic children. I would also take my son outdoors to explore and learn very similarly. We would then return home and it really encouraged him to learn and read more about the things he was truly interested in. He excelled academically because of that. He was not allowed to use technology (i.e. video games, and he did not have a cell phone) during the week. We would take a walk and he loved to watch planes go by when he was young. So he came home and read about the Wright brothers. He studied aerodynamics and trajectories. We watched documentaries. It then catapulted into learning about rockets and space. Children really are brilliant little creatures. Give them the right environment and they will thrive.
Tommy D here is describing a proposal to toughen up our children and teach them about the real world. There should be a balance between classroom and a similar program he described. Anything is better than kids being stuck inside all day just to go home and play Fortnite. Wish I had something like this in my public education.
#6 and #12 New York City Outward Bound incorporates much of this philosophy in its city programs for students who would not be exposed to such opportunities.
#5-Try to keep up to date.
On November 2, 2004, voters in the borough approved changing the locality’s name to Lake Como, which became effective as of January 4, 2005.
#15- No crap. It was said tongue in cheek. They had the nuggets to remove the name Belmar from their pages and have come crawling back asking for, and getting from the real Belmar, favors. I am tired of subsidizing the existence of Lake Como (South Belmar). These were all bad deals made by the former admin. for political purposes, all that have failed.
Tracy-Thank you for enlightening me about homeschooling, and how you incorporated the environment with your son’s academic program. Sounds like he benefited greatly from your approaches
to the variety of instructional tools you provided. It was great to see you and Jim by the post office the other day-great to hear all’s well with your family!
#7 thanks for enlightening us. So if that is the case can we raise the tuition to Lake Como for each student they send to our schools? That would only be fair.
How many Lake Como kids are enrolled in our school and what do we charge per?
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I was there that night a few years ago when the board voted to take the vote away from the people to vote up or down on the school budget. The vote was unanimous. What a bunch of scoundrels.
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But the main thing remains the schools are long obsolete. The yearly increases are just maintenance of life supports to keep the illusion alive that the schools are obsolete and have ben for many years now.
————————————–
The teachers and administrators should be retrained for jobs they may be able to do, like cashier in a dollar store or janitor or mowing a lawn, or possibly becoming an undocumented pharmacist, etc.
as the beneficiary of some public education … HS & College … I’m OK with school taxes if they get bang for the bucks.
#1 I have so much respect for teachers. You are ignorant. I think you need to spend a day in a classroom with a teacher.
1-How would you change the education system, if the present system is obsolete? Please don’t offer climbing trees and skimming rocks in lakes as you have in the past. Boys only, according to you. Girls stay in the classrooms doing what?
I don’t get it. 0% raise in South Belmar and the maximum 2% increase in Belmar. Perhaps we should raise the rate per student we charge South Belmar. I just don’t get it. Tired of subsidizing the people of South Belmar, Police/Fire/First Aid/ and on and on.
#4 – The idea of climbing trees and skimming rocks is just the tip of the iceberg. While the boys are out, they should be taught everything from map reading/making/learning directions/reading time of day from the position of the sun/etc., identifying flora and fauna, knot craft, dressing correctly for weather conditions and kept in motion as much as possible. Reading goes along with it, reading street signs, etc. learning weights and measures, and constantly asked questions and always observed and reports given weekly by a good man. during inclement weather, the young boys could be brought indoors and taught to dance with the girls. At first of course, this would be a limited project, maybe twenty boys of ages, 9-12.
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But in no way should the lousy existing education people be involved in this project. They would of course do anything they could to destroy it. There’s much more. The subject is without end. The only known factor is the system we have is long dead.
#5 Lake Como is a sending district. Their taxes don’t directly pay for a school that’s located in another town. We charge them tuition, just as Manasquan charges us tuition.
6-What’s academic about your plan? How might someone go to college with this type of education? How would a young adult get into medical school with your plan? If your ideas were to be put in place, then education would have to change up to college and grad school. Practically speaking, I don’t think you plan would do the trick. Teachers by and large are excellent. All of my nieces and nephews, and there are many, came up with the present education system. All are extremely successful in their professions. They are well prepared for what they have undertaken, thanks to a nearby school district.
more interested in Belmar BOE assets … the 3+ story building … that survived many storms … is my first choice for shelter during flood conditions.
in the past, Belmar PD evacuation orders directed residents to the school … much higher elevation then town hall
Education in it’s present form is to expensive. Teachers, principals, janitors, books,clerks, repairs, etc. Maybe programmed into into the brains of these snot nosed kids, Then everyone will think alike and the world would be beautiful.
#8 – Sir/Madam, I really don’t care much about academia as it is known now. I care about preparing young people to live in their physical world that surrounds us all. The people who see education as academic will find a way to get their education as has been done in the past for millennia. The rest of the people should be educated as broadly as possible. I’m only making a proposal. I’m sure there are people a lot smarter than us who have better thoughts, but these are mine according to what I see and my overall experience in life.
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Now, let me ask you a question. Are those relatives you mentioned tied to the education system we have in place?
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Lastly, I would advise you to get outdoors for several hours each day and experience our physical surroundings (very educational) and listen to the crows. Their conversations are really interesting.
Actually Tom Dilberger’s proposal mirrors the way many homeschoolers conduct parts of their day, and we find it to be extremely beneficial. Even for our more academic children. I would also take my son outdoors to explore and learn very similarly. We would then return home and it really encouraged him to learn and read more about the things he was truly interested in. He excelled academically because of that. He was not allowed to use technology (i.e. video games, and he did not have a cell phone) during the week. We would take a walk and he loved to watch planes go by when he was young. So he came home and read about the Wright brothers. He studied aerodynamics and trajectories. We watched documentaries. It then catapulted into learning about rockets and space. Children really are brilliant little creatures. Give them the right environment and they will thrive.
Tommy D here is describing a proposal to toughen up our children and teach them about the real world. There should be a balance between classroom and a similar program he described. Anything is better than kids being stuck inside all day just to go home and play Fortnite. Wish I had something like this in my public education.
#6 and #12 New York City Outward Bound incorporates much of this philosophy in its city programs for students who would not be exposed to such opportunities.
#5-Try to keep up to date.
On November 2, 2004, voters in the borough approved changing the locality’s name to Lake Como, which became effective as of January 4, 2005.
#15- No crap. It was said tongue in cheek. They had the nuggets to remove the name Belmar from their pages and have come crawling back asking for, and getting from the real Belmar, favors. I am tired of subsidizing the existence of Lake Como (South Belmar). These were all bad deals made by the former admin. for political purposes, all that have failed.
Tracy-Thank you for enlightening me about homeschooling, and how you incorporated the environment with your son’s academic program. Sounds like he benefited greatly from your approaches
to the variety of instructional tools you provided. It was great to see you and Jim by the post office the other day-great to hear all’s well with your family!
#7 thanks for enlightening us. So if that is the case can we raise the tuition to Lake Como for each student they send to our schools? That would only be fair.
How many Lake Como kids are enrolled in our school and what do we charge per?
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