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26 Comments
Go for a bulk head just higher that the current boardwalk or a boulder wall a couple of feet higher than the boardwalk. Protect the residents, the boardwalk and Ocean Ave but still be able to enjoy the view.
Walls don’t work. They don’t absorb the ocean’s waves (like dunes do). Instead, the wave goes back out and hits the next wave coming in.
When that happens the waves bring the sand out to sea. Walls erode beaches.
We need dunes. Dunes are pretty and they save neighborhoods. No view of the ocean from the street? Tough darts. We need them.
Do what the feds require. We can’t afford another lawsuit.
If my memory serves me right the original bid for the boardwalk construction contained a dune/ or wall system. Maybe a million and and a half? Something like that. Many residents wanted it. That contract when signed had no dune or wall in it. kind of disappeared and former Mayor Matt Dorehty would never speak of it again.
Deposit Christmas trees aka Bradley Beach then Sea Grass thereafter.
That creep Mcdirty kept putting everyone and anything about Dunes off so that his precious bankrupting deal with Merrimakers wouldn’t make waves with his SHEEPEOPLE.
Oh Lord, That’s all we need, those bums from the fedgov coming in here throwing their weight around. Things just keep getting more worser and moreworser for us
Jenkinson’s Beach in Point Pleasant has dunes with a walkway over the dunes to get to the beach. I was told their insurance company told them if they did not put dunes in their insurance would go up for the buildings and contents. Interesting history in the 1800’s the town council decided to sell the beach because it was too expensive to operate.
The cost of ongoing maintenance dredging of the Shark River Inlet will dictate any changes to the Belmar beach
We better not get the US Army Corps of “Engineers” dictating what we can do ourselves so cheaply. Yes to #5 – we should do what Bradley does and STAT! The notching of the jettys created a channel through them which was dangerous conditions for novice swimmers. Now the sand has built up in those notches and it’s pretty much back to the way it was. The fact that our government is still considering walls as storm remediation in places where dunes can be built is preposterous. They might as well build the walls with dollar bills.
I’ll be asking for the Bradley dune plan at a meeting soon. If you feel the same way would you stand up and agree? Thanks
One only has to look at Bradley Beach and Spring Lake beaches to see how the tides are held at bay with vegetation anchored in the sand. End of story!
Kenny P and I reviewed a plan back in 05-06, that was a rendering of a dunes and a meandering path that was awesome. Ken, do you still have that plan? Provided protection while not compromising beauty.
Curious as to why Avon and Spring Lake are not included in this. I know SL has dunes but they are west of the boardwalk
#11 – BINGO
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A while ago I had a conversation about doing just that at our Belmar ecological group and our reining imbecile (I mean that only in the best way of course), tb gave me a long drawn out bunch of malarkey about how the idea was no good (against fed regs. – bs). So I walked over to Bradley and talked to their head of DPW and he said that what tb had told me was a bunch of malarkey. They put the Christmas trees out, fenced them in and then let the wind drive the sand on them. Then they planted dune grass on top. Everything’s fine. No rocket science here. All we need is trees/brush anything that will work as an anchor and some fencing. We don’t have to do the entire beach in one year either. Just start the project and everything’ll be fine. No overtime required either.
The post from #8 referencing insurance raises the question ‘what do we need to do to avoid substantial premium increases or coverage reductions?’ If what Bradley Beach has done addresses this issue and will meet fed demands then it is clearly a low cost , low impact solution. Maybe this new bunch of pols will see the merit and do something that is pro active and with the urging of #10 and anyone adding support we will get the low cost and practical solution. They can do what #14 did, talk to Bradley.
#14 and everyone will help out with the planting – a great community service event. I spoke to a friend in Bradley who’s a councilman AND the Mid-Atlantic Regional Manager of Surfrider Foundation – THE most devoted environmentalist I know. He said the Bradley dunes are perfectly good and ya can’t beat the price.
Avon has a wall already and their boardwalk is elevated
Spring lake has elevated boardwalk and dunes in the west side of boardwalk
Doing what Bradley Beach does could be a great Boy Scout Eagle project or possibly Girl Scout Gold Award – talk to the local troops. If they don’t fall under these guideline then have the scouts do it as a community service project.
Katrina – before sand replenishment was common, the sand against Avon’s wall was eroded. As a kid we would sprain ankles jumping off the west side of the boardwalk. The east side with steps down had a higher elevation. I think that’s because after storms they didn’t push the sand all the way back up along the wall. It only takes one storm and the sand gets pulled out to sea – more easily because of a wall.
19: Great idea for Girl Scouts, Eagle Scouts, etc.
Thanks Aileen. I love the idea of the Bradley dunes. But I can hear all the screaming from a lot of folks because it would block “their view”.
Can’t always have things both ways.
There is a concept called “for the greater good”!
#22 I hope you are wrong that there would be a lot of ‘screaming’ but if so let them scream. I don’t have the full picture but it sounds like there are strong practical reasons to put in dunes and if a few people want to scream that is their right but so what?
#24- Agree 100%. But Katrina is right, people will be against. Matt was against them and therefore squashed it. I can only imagine that a large political donor who is against dunes got to him. He’s not big on original thought, just blowing in which ever direction fills his war chest.
#24 Given Doherty’s lack of good judgement on the towns behalf[excluding something of personal benefit]the argument for low cost, low impact Bradley dunes is even more compelling. One can only hope that our current BA or his designee is already looking at what is coming from the feds and the insurance aspect as well and any other considerations of benefit to the boro. As i recall Bradleys project involved getting a lot of other towns in Monmouth county to preserve their Xmas trees which were then picked up by Bradley or transported to their dropoff designation and handled by their DPW. We are less than 6 months away if anyone is going to get organized and do this timely.
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