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35 Comments
Really, when is gonna stop?
Why not go into the damn street ??
So if someone is drinking and is injured due to this drinking, on a public sidewalk, who is liable? Another lawsuit vs. Belmar in the making. And someone should check out all of the other liquor establishments to see if they are in rules, ABC and others.
Would there be any room to walk ???
The sidewalk there is already narrow with the cars parking over the curb and the people lingering and the poles on the sidewalk. No!!!
The good sidewalk was taken away when they expanded the building by 12 feet.
6 – Bingo! That property was already granted an expansion.
I’m all for it. It’s not another fist pumping bar. There’s a diverse group of people dining there. The restaurant is thriving by providing good food in a clean atmosphere with good service. The location had a liquor licence in the past. Other restaurants have outdoor seating. This isn’t the right fight.
There has already been seating outdoors at Flames. Isn’t this just so they can now serve the alcohol out there also?
#8 I would like to walk on the sidewalk without bumping into people. The quality of life here is slowly diminishing every damn day. Bad enough I need a cane to walk. Don’t want to walk around chairs!! I don’t care who is dining there!!!
Aileen is absolutely correct. I am also in favor. pick a different battle.
Give an inch and they can take a mile. If they are allowed expansion, and business slows, all they have to do is change the atmosphere, promotion and music and then it becomes an outside club to hang out. Be careful what you wish for.
Did D’Jais ever get any permission for all their expansions out back ???
All other bar/restaurants can copy Flames paperwork bc it’s in the Public, monkey see, monkey do.
I’m all for it as long as there is room to walk around. Many establishments outside tables. Even without a liquor license they have byob. The whole idea of outside dining is appealing in a summer season town like Belmar.
It’s the loud music of some of our establishments that create the proms. Not the dining.
I’m with Aileen on this one.
Don’t have an objection to the request. Needs to be chained off so no more encroachment on existing walkway. Can a carriage or wheelchair pass.
Seems like people here just want to put up a fight to fight..
This isnt for a club, its for outdoor dining..for tables they currently already have outside. The atmosphere is nice albeit the food is overpriced and not very good..
why not pick other fights? djais seems to be a popular topic? or how about the retirement home on 8th and how they dont maintain their outdoor “garden” or how the older people dont respect the cross walk?
Why is there a non-working traffic light near the senior building to allow people to safely walk through the crosswalk? Even if using the crosswalk, drivers don’t care and speed up to 35 or come racing down 8th Ave.
The minimum width for an ADA-compliant sidewalk is 36 inches (3 feet) … the width can be reduced to 32 inches for a maximum length of 24 inches.
A3766 passed Senate 37-0. Includes public corruption on list of existing offenses that can cost pulling retirement benefits.
#17 I just want to get fresh air once and awhile and not have to worry about tripping over an outside chair.
As long as cars over parking the sidewalk and a table of 2 seated can still accommodate The minimum width for an ADA-compliant sidewalk is 36 inches (3 feet) … baby strollers shouldn’t be 2nd class to outdoor booze.
#18 Crosswalk..Thank you for noticing how dangerous it is to cross 8th Ave
in front of the senior building. Drivers coming off Rte 35 or heading west on 8th Ave to Rte 35 are driving above the 25 mph speed limit. For years I have brought this up to Doherty and council as well as ADA. Public safety? One of these days someone is going to get hit.
There is power in numbers..We need to get concerned residents to come up with
several solutions and present it to Mayor and council.
#11 – No, and the Mayor and Council are totally ignoring the issue.
Jim Bean for Mayor
#25 Jim Bean? That’s a great idea. He wouldn’t accept what is happening to this town. Mr. Bean>>If you are reading this please consider running for mayor next time around. I’m willing to skip my aspirins and make a small donation to your campaign. Can’t tolerate either Demorats or Replicants. I really don’t want to move. My son, CPA , says I should. Says I have a $250K exclusion on capital gains.
#23 – You’re cherry picking here (senior citizen building). At this time of the year, all walking, everywhere down here gets a bit harder. The big point is that so many pedestrians are unaware of their location and the hazards of that particular area. While I’m not happy about this situation I do find it fascinating to be alive and see people who live as they do, completely oblivious to their surroundings go about their daily activities. Truly fascinating to a person of my background and experiences.
Today https://www.app.com/story/news/local/neptune-wall/belmar/2019/06/01/pedestrian-struck-vehicle-belmar/1310639001/
I’ve been infected with Lymes disease four times while living in Belmar. the last time I was also hit with Babesia. Most know that I garden at the beach. My Orthopedic Joint problems are now unabated.
the only relief I achieved was after 2nd infection when I was hospitalized for a Vena Cava port with ROCEFIN. I recovered in a week/month but still had sustained permanent my damaged joints, etc. I was then exposed again for the third time and was told insurance does cover OF ROCEFIN. I was allowed the Malaria medicine for treatment of Babesia. Your doctor should be allowed to treat a patient not an insurance company back wi t h unknown, questionable competence and credentials to treat an illness that will forever change your life without patient specific treatment.
#13 – No, and the Mayor and Council are totally ignoring the issue.
No purchase necessary.
Just like street parking or boardwalk bench …
Any chair on the sidewalk should be a ‘public’ chair … not ‘reserved’ for a ‘private’ entity
This should cause mayor and council to evaluate the entire situation of establishments putting their tables on town property like Brandl and Jakes. Was that approved? Town needs $ so charge them an annual fee of $1k per table.
There are 2 bike racks on Main Street in front of Anchor Tavern which run north south. When bikes are in the rack park east west nearly the entire main street sidewalk is blocked
Who owns the racks? BBP, BORO or establishments?
Large tables and chairs on the sidewalk in front of Jakes, a vendor was selling clothes etc from truck labeled Penelope’s in plaza parking lot next to Burrito’s on Friday, a band was playing outside under a tent on the sidewalk in front of Burrito’s open patio on Sunday.
It seems that restuarants are claiming the sidewalks. Where is code enforcement?
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