Please note, both of our Mayor candidates have no problem with the D’Jais license being extended to year round and our local zoning ordinances being usurped. Councilman Walsifer even said D’Jais should be allowed to open parade day and more. What does Mrs Wann think about that? I believed she wanted the 4th district to settle down.
If McGovern is for a plastic bag ban, and Walsifer is for a plastic bag ban and If Mcgovern is for seasonals going year round, and Walsifer is for seasonals going year rounds, and McGovern is for raiding the beach utility to keep taxes down (against state law)and Walsifer is for raiding the beach utility to keep taxes down (against state law)…….
what the hell is the difference except the letter that comes after their name?
Let’s get them to debate. I’m sure you’d see for yourself the smarter, more level headed, less egotistical candidate is Mark. And most importantly, they can vote Colleen Connolly out. With McGovern in, that can’t happen.
Right on #12, a truly ugly building design. Do we really need another multi-unit building, in addition to all of the others we seem to be building lately?
There comes a time in community development when PILOT (tax avoidance) programs are no longer needed as a tool to attract developers. Now is that time! What is wrong with the existing bank building which can be repurposed for many different types of uses? Why do the residents need to pay more in taxes so that 50 or 60 apartments can be built and the development “investors” can walk away with profits at our expense? The property has been purchased already by these “investors” and, even with the drive-up building, the property is no where near blighted or posing a nuisance to the community. This is another deal that is quickly startingg to stink.
I will be writing-in Jim Bean for Mayor if Magovern and Walsifer want D’Jais to open even 1 extra day more then their current seasonal license allows for. It is time to stand-up for Belmar. JIM BEAN for MAYOR – Stand-Up for Belmar!
#20 Guest-Jim Bean has made it very clear that he does not want to run nor
is he running. You will be wasting a vote that is going to be needed to help clean up this town.
Why any one can put up a building and not have to pay taxes should be investigated and erased off the resident tax payers backs. The profit
must be tremendous or it wouldn’t be
happening.
#21 – I will freely waste my vote if both Magovern and Walsifer want D’Jais opened 1 extra day longer than their current licenses allows for. Either of them can choose Belmar residents over booze if they want my vote.
Magovern made some comment about looking at an aerial of Belmar 10 years from now and seeing its changes, because the town needs new housing and needs to be changed? What in the heck is he talking about?
I hope you understand the Senate bill#1958 which would abolish all seasonal liquor licenses and make them year round came from Trenton. We had no say in this bill. If the Lord Himself wanted to vote no it wouldn’t matter. Again, the town of Belmar had no say. This is a distraction from a real issue we can control. It’s stopping the building of the mega complex consisting of 206 apartments that will overshadow downtown. Our BA is pushing this as another “no cost to the taxpayers “ project. It will have rentals we have no control of, massive traffic, a burden on our police dept, fire dept, school system and an aging infrastructure. You can help stop this by coming to the council meeting this Tuesday May1 and find out more about this project they’re trying to push on us. I’ll be there if you want to talk. I’m running for council and I want to listen to you because no one listened to me.
#25 – WRONG! Although this is a Trenton initiated and enacted issue, the BOROUGH of Belmar has an opportunity to have pleanty to say. A formal Resolution disapproving of this change and Borough represented testimony at the committee hearing regarding this change yielding adverse effects in our community would have gone a long way with our blindly lead voting legislatures who accept signs of no contention as signs of acceptance and/or approval. But, good try at towing the political line and sitting this one on the fence.
To Pat Wann- can you please explain how you feel about the possibility of D’jais being able to operate as a year round establishment ? Please do not skirt the issue.
26: Unfortunately Mcdirty was the only Mayor who publicized, on behalf of Belmar, that he supported S1958. Remember Pay to Play make strange bedfellows. Menendez, Mcdirty’s pal and frequent visitor to photo ops in Belmar was SLAPPED on the wrist yesterday in the US Senate.
#26 Many residents have sent letters to Trenton over the YEARS this has been going on. South End residents formed a committee to fight it. Christie isn’t here to veto it. Suggestions? Do you know what the other towns are doing?
To all who voted for Mcdirty and Company: Pat yourselves on the back for Vin Gopal’s omage to Mcdirty’s thumper for dissolution of year round seasonal liquor licenses. You allowed them to usurp your rights. Not one thing can be done about it now you idiots.
It’s amazing how people stop standing up for what they believe because they want to get elected. It’s so easy to blame Trenton and shrug your shoulders, it’s harder to stand up and say I am against this.
Candidate Wann, I have always believed you to stand up for the residents of the 4th district. Now is your chance. D’Jais opening year round is not good for the quality of life in Belmar and especially not good for the 4th district. But as a candidate you offer excuses and finger pointing instead of ideas. You blame others. The building on main is in a redevelopment zone, out of your and the voters control, but you are willing to go to the mic and stand up for that. Councilman Walsifer at least had the guts to say he supports the bill. What is so hard about stating whether or not you support the bill that expands the time alcohol may be served from a night club operating in a residential zone?
Power to the peeps. Go to May 1 Belmar Council Meeting to OBJECT on the record/video to the “Mega Housing Project” scheme being fast tracked before the November election. Don’t lose another chance to STOP COLLEEN’$ latest PILOT give away on your dime. She was not elected to Council. Remember what she did with Merrimakers.
32 .. Well said and exactly on point regarding candidates who become true politicians. Walsifer will NOT get my vote if he is in support of the expansion of the seasonal license to year round. One correction, D’jais is in a conmercial zone, which does not allow for a bar or club to operate (they are “grandfathered”). That zone in which they operate is a small strip of Ocean Avenue which is adjacent to a residential zone.
Firpo lost to Dempsey fair and square. It was the greatest fight ever. Jack came back after being out of the ring for 19 secords. PS: He was hit with a typewriter outside of the ring and still came back.
Are Liquor licenses “Privilege or Property” here is the answer…. Courts
implicitly recognized that liquor licenses are “property” within the meaning of the fourteenth amendment. Running for town council on a platform that you will do something about D’Jais is a promise the candidate cant keep…
If you think about it Belmar will have 3 New Big Construction sites all potentially going on at the same time. The New Municipal/Apartment building ( 2/3 yr project ) , the New Bridge (2/3 year project ), and the Bank project(2 yr project ). All of which are located on Main St if this doesn’t scare anyone your crazy , keep in mind this isn’t just going to be contained to the winter months. These are all huge projects requiring a ton of big equipment and workers. How many Main St Business located from the bridge down to 9th ave are going to survive the 3 to 5 years for all of these projects to be completed ? My guess is not many.
Mayor Magovern wanted the bank redevelopment plan referred to the Planning Board (where the public can comment)….
But, @24:40 the Business Administrator told the mayor – “NOPE” …. She’s doing things her way ….
End of story.
It must be difficult for this mayor to be effective when all of his subordinates did a better job milking the Belmar Cow then he did.
#39 I’m confused about what you are saying. I believe everyone is arguing about a State bill and whether Belmar should pass a resolution stating the town is for or against the bill.
Actually, it goes much deeper than this. 20 years ago, Mayor Pringle moved all of the alcohol to main street and turned the beach front property values around. Now the bars are slowly seeping back. I believe this is an important issue to see where our elected officials stand on the direction of the town. Doherty started to reverse 20 years of progress. (Marina bar, beach house brewery, La Dolce Vita expanded, Taylor pavilion wedding hall) Seems like the 2 Mayoral candidates want to continue on this course of party city. They both support a bill to change the 3 seasonal to year-round. more drunks, more loudness, more hit and runs.
Its not about doing something to D’Jais, it’s about having leadership to steer the direction of the town. Who is in control? The bars or the people?
#42…. I agree that the town is being over developed and is opening too many new (liquor licenses) bars… I also believe that seasonal licenses being converted to year round is just a terrible idea… Furthermore it deceases the value of current year round licenses… However, D’Jais has been in its current location for years, and the business is a property that has legal rights… I am not saying I agree with what the business represents, but believe me, D’Jais will never be closed or controlled…. There are other issues in town that we can actually change… D’jais is a losing battle…
#42 is worried with the direction of the town and the increase in alcohol, bars, party town and #43 tells them to stop worrying about D’Jais and look elsewhere. LOL Belmar you are to much.
#43 – Spoken like a true Walsifer\Wann supporter or D’Jais employee, but more likely both
Has anyone ever OPRA DJais building plans permits. ? Lot of changes and expand since Sandy. . Look it up ? Backyard outside area fire escapes ? One door out if there is ever a fire and your in the back yard having a beer ? Building inspection in basement work ? Just saying they have expanded every year with no control. Don’t believe look it up
#45…. The new bars in town should never have been allowed to open… Legally once an establishment is opened and operating it is impossible to close or control… I know this from being involved in litigation with regard to this topic…., All I am saying is engage in a battle that can be won… But first we have to win an election which we just cant seem to do …
#49 I have noticed that she has way too much say in the running of Belmar. I’m a summertimer and in my hometown, up North, the business administrator doesn’t have the power that Colleen yields. I’m sick to death of her!
Since when did the Beach Haus Brewery become a bar? That whole deal was a scam to the public. They operate as a distillery with a tour then a taste. BS! People hang up on the deck drinking. Now I see they have bands and special events. This was a Dirty Doherty back door deal with Connolly behind it. He’s gone now she needs to go.
Anchor Tavern is “special.” Loud sound blasting onto the street from the large screen tv inside facing 8th Avenue (across from the brewery)! Time: about 12:30 A.M. Friday morning, April 27th. Glad I do not live near that corner.
#52. What type of License do they have? ABC must be aware. Doherty got one for Chef’s. He’s a wizard when alcohol is involved. And guess what No Tax Increase.
People: did you ever hear about stretching the license? Pat’s Tavern stretched to Patrick’s Pub stretched to Pat’s Riverview, Waterview? Watch where and when the elastic license is going to be STRETCHED again.
Regarding minute 24 where Colleen says no to Brian about the next step. Admin – do you know how this works – Mayor and Council approve the general concept, then Administrator negotiates with them (about what idk – maybe amount of PILOT money), and THEN it goes to Planning Board? Would love to know if that’s correct protocol.
Oh that’s right! Ugh! And should Colleen be a negotiator with developers? Or should she just be there to understand? Seems like she said she’d be negotiating with them and preparing the pitch for the planning board meeting.
And when developers negotiate with the town, does protocol dictate who needs to be present? If it’s the whole Mayor and Council, then there should be executive sessions. If not, then who exactly is negotiating with developers?
I highly doubt there is anybody negotiating with the best interests of the residents in mind. Someone (who isn’t moving away in 3 months) really needs to dig into this and find out what’s really going on because this is going to be a disaster.
BTW, the town that I’m moving to, Hampton NH, needed a referendum to get the OK to replace a couple of doors on their municipal building. Here they can give the entire municipal building away to an out of state developer without any public input at all.
How can we have so many people here on this site with the opinion that this project is awful but we have no real voice in town? How can become organized to take action and speak out against this project?
#67 go to meetings and speak up – ask questions – ask others to come too. We must get the current mayor and some of the council out. We need to vote for whomever would vote to hire a new business administrator.
Dave is right the gavel must be passed to another Patriot who will in a nonpartisan way inform Belmar.
We probably need to Faulkner Act Petition once again to bring the Magovern administration down to earth on over redevelopment as it is currently being bastardized.
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Who the hell is Mark Lewis?
Levis
The council meeting video is restricted. It says I need approval before viewing.
Magovern is not only dumb, but he is extremely rude.
Please note, both of our Mayor candidates have no problem with the D’Jais license being extended to year round and our local zoning ordinances being usurped. Councilman Walsifer even said D’Jais should be allowed to open parade day and more. What does Mrs Wann think about that? I believed she wanted the 4th district to settle down.
If McGovern is for a plastic bag ban, and Walsifer is for a plastic bag ban and If Mcgovern is for seasonals going year round, and Walsifer is for seasonals going year rounds, and McGovern is for raiding the beach utility to keep taxes down (against state law)and Walsifer is for raiding the beach utility to keep taxes down (against state law)…….
what the hell is the difference except the letter that comes after their name?
Great point #6. The only answer ? Nothing! Write in campaign
#6 Guest…BINGO!!!
Let’s get them to debate. I’m sure you’d see for yourself the smarter, more level headed, less egotistical candidate is Mark. And most importantly, they can vote Colleen Connolly out. With McGovern in, that can’t happen.
#6 – This is all just the same old Belmar booze-friendly government in action. It is time to vote all of them out of office.
Write in Jim Bean!!!!!
Another ugly building design.
I need more aspirins..Who the hell is Mark Levis?
creeping redevelopment …. 4 story building shadowing residential properties
Right on #12, a truly ugly building design. Do we really need another multi-unit building, in addition to all of the others we seem to be building lately?
There comes a time in community development when PILOT (tax avoidance) programs are no longer needed as a tool to attract developers. Now is that time! What is wrong with the existing bank building which can be repurposed for many different types of uses? Why do the residents need to pay more in taxes so that 50 or 60 apartments can be built and the development “investors” can walk away with profits at our expense? The property has been purchased already by these “investors” and, even with the drive-up building, the property is no where near blighted or posing a nuisance to the community. This is another deal that is quickly startingg to stink.
who is the developer?
Sachem Pond LLC, which is Belmar resident Alex Taylor and some fellow named Bill Stapleton.
#18 … and 6 other investor partners.
I will be writing-in Jim Bean for Mayor if Magovern and Walsifer want D’Jais to open even 1 extra day more then their current seasonal license allows for. It is time to stand-up for Belmar. JIM BEAN for MAYOR – Stand-Up for Belmar!
#20 Guest-Jim Bean has made it very clear that he does not want to run nor
is he running. You will be wasting a vote that is going to be needed to help clean up this town.
Why any one can put up a building and not have to pay taxes should be investigated and erased off the resident tax payers backs. The profit
must be tremendous or it wouldn’t be
happening.
#21 – I will freely waste my vote if both Magovern and Walsifer want D’Jais opened 1 extra day longer than their current licenses allows for. Either of them can choose Belmar residents over booze if they want my vote.
Magovern made some comment about looking at an aerial of Belmar 10 years from now and seeing its changes, because the town needs new housing and needs to be changed? What in the heck is he talking about?
I too will be writing in Jim Bean. Would love to hear what candidate Wann has to say regarding this liquor license thing.
I hope you understand the Senate bill#1958 which would abolish all seasonal liquor licenses and make them year round came from Trenton. We had no say in this bill. If the Lord Himself wanted to vote no it wouldn’t matter. Again, the town of Belmar had no say. This is a distraction from a real issue we can control. It’s stopping the building of the mega complex consisting of 206 apartments that will overshadow downtown. Our BA is pushing this as another “no cost to the taxpayers “ project. It will have rentals we have no control of, massive traffic, a burden on our police dept, fire dept, school system and an aging infrastructure. You can help stop this by coming to the council meeting this Tuesday May1 and find out more about this project they’re trying to push on us. I’ll be there if you want to talk. I’m running for council and I want to listen to you because no one listened to me.
#25 – WRONG! Although this is a Trenton initiated and enacted issue, the BOROUGH of Belmar has an opportunity to have pleanty to say. A formal Resolution disapproving of this change and Borough represented testimony at the committee hearing regarding this change yielding adverse effects in our community would have gone a long way with our blindly lead voting legislatures who accept signs of no contention as signs of acceptance and/or approval. But, good try at towing the political line and sitting this one on the fence.
Magovern is a loudmouth dope. A vote for him is a vote for the same crap we’ve been putting up with for years. Time for a change. Duh
To Pat Wann- can you please explain how you feel about the possibility of D’jais being able to operate as a year round establishment ? Please do not skirt the issue.
26: Unfortunately Mcdirty was the only Mayor who publicized, on behalf of Belmar, that he supported S1958. Remember Pay to Play make strange bedfellows. Menendez, Mcdirty’s pal and frequent visitor to photo ops in Belmar was SLAPPED on the wrist yesterday in the US Senate.
#26 Many residents have sent letters to Trenton over the YEARS this has been going on. South End residents formed a committee to fight it. Christie isn’t here to veto it. Suggestions? Do you know what the other towns are doing?
To all who voted for Mcdirty and Company: Pat yourselves on the back for Vin Gopal’s omage to Mcdirty’s thumper for dissolution of year round seasonal liquor licenses. You allowed them to usurp your rights. Not one thing can be done about it now you idiots.
It’s amazing how people stop standing up for what they believe because they want to get elected. It’s so easy to blame Trenton and shrug your shoulders, it’s harder to stand up and say I am against this.
Candidate Wann, I have always believed you to stand up for the residents of the 4th district. Now is your chance. D’Jais opening year round is not good for the quality of life in Belmar and especially not good for the 4th district. But as a candidate you offer excuses and finger pointing instead of ideas. You blame others. The building on main is in a redevelopment zone, out of your and the voters control, but you are willing to go to the mic and stand up for that. Councilman Walsifer at least had the guts to say he supports the bill. What is so hard about stating whether or not you support the bill that expands the time alcohol may be served from a night club operating in a residential zone?
Power to the peeps. Go to May 1 Belmar Council Meeting to OBJECT on the record/video to the “Mega Housing Project” scheme being fast tracked before the November election. Don’t lose another chance to STOP COLLEEN’$ latest PILOT give away on your dime. She was not elected to Council. Remember what she did with Merrimakers.
32 .. Well said and exactly on point regarding candidates who become true politicians. Walsifer will NOT get my vote if he is in support of the expansion of the seasonal license to year round. One correction, D’jais is in a conmercial zone, which does not allow for a bar or club to operate (they are “grandfathered”). That zone in which they operate is a small strip of Ocean Avenue which is adjacent to a residential zone.
If Magovern is for this proposal and wants to whisk it through before the election then that should be his political downfall come November.
Will Belmar’s Larouche address the progressive movement in Belmar? ANSWER NOW: Why and why not?
Firpo lost to Dempsey fair and square. It was the greatest fight ever. Jack came back after being out of the ring for 19 secords. PS: He was hit with a typewriter outside of the ring and still came back.
COLLEEN lives in Avon,taxes wont effect her!
Are Liquor licenses “Privilege or Property” here is the answer…. Courts
implicitly recognized that liquor licenses are “property” within the meaning of the fourteenth amendment. Running for town council on a platform that you will do something about D’Jais is a promise the candidate cant keep…
If you think about it Belmar will have 3 New Big Construction sites all potentially going on at the same time. The New Municipal/Apartment building ( 2/3 yr project ) , the New Bridge (2/3 year project ), and the Bank project(2 yr project ). All of which are located on Main St if this doesn’t scare anyone your crazy , keep in mind this isn’t just going to be contained to the winter months. These are all huge projects requiring a ton of big equipment and workers. How many Main St Business located from the bridge down to 9th ave are going to survive the 3 to 5 years for all of these projects to be completed ? My guess is not many.
Mayor Magovern wanted the bank redevelopment plan referred to the Planning Board (where the public can comment)….
But, @24:40 the Business Administrator told the mayor – “NOPE” …. She’s doing things her way ….
End of story.
It must be difficult for this mayor to be effective when all of his subordinates did a better job milking the Belmar Cow then he did.
#39 I’m confused about what you are saying. I believe everyone is arguing about a State bill and whether Belmar should pass a resolution stating the town is for or against the bill.
Actually, it goes much deeper than this. 20 years ago, Mayor Pringle moved all of the alcohol to main street and turned the beach front property values around. Now the bars are slowly seeping back. I believe this is an important issue to see where our elected officials stand on the direction of the town. Doherty started to reverse 20 years of progress. (Marina bar, beach house brewery, La Dolce Vita expanded, Taylor pavilion wedding hall) Seems like the 2 Mayoral candidates want to continue on this course of party city. They both support a bill to change the 3 seasonal to year-round. more drunks, more loudness, more hit and runs.
Its not about doing something to D’Jais, it’s about having leadership to steer the direction of the town. Who is in control? The bars or the people?
#42…. I agree that the town is being over developed and is opening too many new (liquor licenses) bars… I also believe that seasonal licenses being converted to year round is just a terrible idea… Furthermore it deceases the value of current year round licenses… However, D’Jais has been in its current location for years, and the business is a property that has legal rights… I am not saying I agree with what the business represents, but believe me, D’Jais will never be closed or controlled…. There are other issues in town that we can actually change… D’jais is a losing battle…
#42 – The bars are in charge.
#42 is worried with the direction of the town and the increase in alcohol, bars, party town and #43 tells them to stop worrying about D’Jais and look elsewhere. LOL Belmar you are to much.
#43 – Spoken like a true Walsifer\Wann supporter or D’Jais employee, but more likely both
# 42
THE BARS.
Has anyone ever OPRA DJais building plans permits. ? Lot of changes and expand since Sandy. . Look it up ? Backyard outside area fire escapes ? One door out if there is ever a fire and your in the back yard having a beer ? Building inspection in basement work ? Just saying they have expanded every year with no control. Don’t believe look it up
#45…. The new bars in town should never have been allowed to open… Legally once an establishment is opened and operating it is impossible to close or control… I know this from being involved in litigation with regard to this topic…., All I am saying is engage in a battle that can be won… But first we have to win an election which we just cant seem to do …
Colleen has taken over control – have you noticed? Gutless Magovern did not stand up to her and the attorney kept his mouth shut.
#49 I have noticed that she has way too much say in the running of Belmar. I’m a summertimer and in my hometown, up North, the business administrator doesn’t have the power that Colleen yields. I’m sick to death of her!
Since when did the Beach Haus Brewery become a bar? That whole deal was a scam to the public. They operate as a distillery with a tour then a taste. BS! People hang up on the deck drinking. Now I see they have bands and special events. This was a Dirty Doherty back door deal with Connolly behind it. He’s gone now she needs to go.
51 …. and there is a bar with taps now on the first floor! This was a planned scam from day 1.
Anchor Tavern is “special.” Loud sound blasting onto the street from the large screen tv inside facing 8th Avenue (across from the brewery)! Time: about 12:30 A.M. Friday morning, April 27th. Glad I do not live near that corner.
51 and 52. Residents dumped again!
#52. What type of License do they have? ABC must be aware. Doherty got one for Chef’s. He’s a wizard when alcohol is involved. And guess what No Tax Increase.
Alcohol rules Belmar
Looks like neither mayoral candidate has the guts to defy the all powerful Djais
I think the D’Jais Drunkard is the one behind the new bill being pushed. He needs somewhere to hang out for the rest of the year.
#52 great question. Where did the Marina Grille and Pier get their licenses
People: did you ever hear about stretching the license? Pat’s Tavern stretched to Patrick’s Pub stretched to Pat’s Riverview, Waterview? Watch where and when the elastic license is going to be STRETCHED again.
the rated occupancy of places serving booze in Belmar & Lake Como is in the thousands …. and growing
Belmar, NJ – Booze City USA!
Regarding minute 24 where Colleen says no to Brian about the next step. Admin – do you know how this works – Mayor and Council approve the general concept, then Administrator negotiates with them (about what idk – maybe amount of PILOT money), and THEN it goes to Planning Board? Would love to know if that’s correct protocol.
One thing I do know is that under redevelopment the Planning Board can only make suggestions. It has no power to approve or disapprove of a project.
Oh that’s right! Ugh! And should Colleen be a negotiator with developers? Or should she just be there to understand? Seems like she said she’d be negotiating with them and preparing the pitch for the planning board meeting.
And when developers negotiate with the town, does protocol dictate who needs to be present? If it’s the whole Mayor and Council, then there should be executive sessions. If not, then who exactly is negotiating with developers?
I highly doubt there is anybody negotiating with the best interests of the residents in mind. Someone (who isn’t moving away in 3 months) really needs to dig into this and find out what’s really going on because this is going to be a disaster.
BTW, the town that I’m moving to, Hampton NH, needed a referendum to get the OK to replace a couple of doors on their municipal building. Here they can give the entire municipal building away to an out of state developer without any public input at all.
How can we have so many people here on this site with the opinion that this project is awful but we have no real voice in town? How can become organized to take action and speak out against this project?
#67 go to meetings and speak up – ask questions – ask others to come too. We must get the current mayor and some of the council out. We need to vote for whomever would vote to hire a new business administrator.
I believe the uncertainty of the bridge will make people think twice about starting any new development
Dave is right the gavel must be passed to another Patriot who will in a nonpartisan way inform Belmar.
We probably need to Faulkner Act Petition once again to bring the Magovern administration down to earth on over redevelopment as it is currently being bastardized.
Yes a petition is in order.
Too many bars.
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