M & M BID CONTAINED “ERROR” !
EPIC TO GET PAVILON JOB !
CONTRACT TO BE AWARDED
AT “SPECIAL” MONDAY MORNING
COUNCIL MEETING DEC 28
WHO PAYS?
“borough refuses to entertain
hypothetical questions”
Also in today’s Star:
Both articles republished with the permission of the Coast Star. Thanks, Coast Star!
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Why wouldn’t Altec get to build the 10th Avenue pavilion ???
You get what you pay to play for in Belmar.
Unless I am miscalculating, it appears that the least expensive alternative (based on the bids) is to have Altec build 10th Ave. and Epic build 5th Ave. If my math is correct, that is a cheaper alternative to Epic’s bid to build both.
Hold your nose on December 28th.
Seasonal shmeasonal lemme get my DRANK on. We need party BUS year round homeboyssss
Everyone who has a regular job and cares about the borough should take Monday the 28th off and go to the meeting. Yeah, right.
After reading the Judge’s opinion, it does not make sense that insurance proceeds from the pavilions can not be used to re-build them. Any insurance proceeds should be used to rebuild, what it was paid to cover. According to her opinion, none of the insurance money individuals received could have been used to re-build their homes.
According to the RFP, the proposals specifically call for boardwalk work. There should be no question that “buy-a-board” money should be able to cover those costs.
#6, According to State of New Jersey, Department of Treasury, General Services Administration, Office of Purchase and Property regulations, the lowest bid does not automatically have to be accepted, rather what is called “best Bid”, is the one that should be accepted. Having dealt with many of these types of situations, it far better, easier and more efficient to interact with one contractor in projects of this nature, than two or three.
the insurance was only for one pavilion and that pavilion was rebuilt after the last storm by the beach utility. Gummer also ruled that the ramps and decking for access to Taylor are part of Taylor and not part of the boardwalk.
After reading the Judge’s opinion, it does not make sense that insurance proceeds from the pavilions can not be used to re-build them. Any insurance proceeds should be used to rebuild, what it was paid to cover. According to her opinion, none of the insurance money individuals received could have been used to re-build their homes.
According to the RFP, the proposals specifically call for boardwalk work. There should be no question that “buy-a-board” money should be used to cover those costs.
#3 Guest, According to State of New Jersey, Department of Treasury, General Services Administration, Office of Purchase and Property regulations, the lowest bid does not automatically have to be accepted, rather what is called “Best Bid”, is the one that should be accepted. Having dealt with many of these types of situations, it far better, easier and more efficient to interact with one contractor in projects of this nature, than two or three.
#8 Admin, what pavilion was insured? When was it destroyed ? And when was it re-built?
According to your statement, decking and ramps can be covered by the “Buy-a_Board” money, as per the judge’s opinion for the “Safety Pavilion”
I believe it was the old 10th Ave building that was insured. it was badly damaged in the 1992 nor’easter and largely rebuilt. The repairs were paid by the beach utility. The whole building is less than $2 million. Ramps for it aren’t going to cost $767,000. I don’t have time right now to review the decision but I think all the costs for 10th are covered by FEMA and the insurance except the part of it that will be for food sales. I’m also pretty sure Gummer said the Buy a Board money must be used to pay towards the boardwalk bond.
#6. There are many of us ( who have been fighting to good fight ) who can make such a
meeting. Speaking to this, Belmar Democrats have just posted that the first two meeting 1/2 and 1/5 have been cancelled. The “reorganization” meeting will be Thurs. 1/7/2016. Clearly, we need to support Dave via offering to videotape the meetings. I am not implying that this chaos over the date, day of week and time, are a deliberate effort. I am addressing yours and other’s concerns for transparency. This is more important than ever now, that the Mayor and Business Admin. have signaled just who is in charge. They have “progressively” made it more than clear that they have a zero tolerance for the rule of law.
Addressing how this administration has handled and continues to handle the rebuilding of pavilions, one has to remark that they were elected to act on our behalf.
Close your eyes, and visualize our elected. Now ask yourself, are they serving or being self serving? Now open your eyes. Now do or say something.
Ugh, Druz I thought we got rid of you’re still a dope. A boardwalk, is something you walk on hence the word walk in it. Belmar can call it a boardwalk or a pathway way, or stomping ground but it’s a building. We are building two buildings is that clear now. The boardwalk referred to in the bid, is extra ramps necessary because our engineers screwed up and did not build the boardwalk to flood standards and now to meet ADA guidelines it must be 5 feet higher. Also the “boardwalk” in the bid is for a large, nice outside deck for the concession at the 5th Ave building that was never there before. I’m sure the company Brandl’s, hint, hint that will mysteriously get the concession for peanuts will enjoy the profits of a large area for outdoor dining. Only the 10th Ave building was insured that benefit goes to that building period what did you do all those years working? Did you read any of the Gummer decision, do you know anything about the case, the rebuilt 10th Ave was after the 1990’s hurricane loss paid by the beach goers. READ you might learn something so you can lobby better. You’re consulting ability is really questionable, ha. The decision by the judge will stand there is no argument on appeal as Belmar presented no defense on the record, you understand that right, you can only appeal what happened and is on the record in the original court case being appealed, it’s not a new trial, it’s an appeal. Taxpayers will pay and the bid should go to the lowest, and best for the taxpayer combined or not. Your analysis of the State’s position on the bid is crap as are your posts. And you have dealt with nothing or at least retained nothing you sound like a idiot.
Eugene Creamer called it from the beginning. The rig is in Epic gets the deal.
Judge Gummer clearly stated buy a board CANNOT be used toward pavillions. 10th Ave was the insured pavillion and was entirely paid for out of Beach Utility fund. Money cannot be put toward 5th.
All of you folks who say the judge’s ruling is wrong crack me up! How many lawsuits does Matt have to lose before you see the light???
knowledge is power. use it or you will lose it.
Admin, you should get a salary for this blog, period. direct the uninformed to Judge Gummer’s opinion which also provides historical data. you don’t get paid to be an interpretation advisor to the lame or corrupt.
Where is the M & M Construction Co. bid bond? …. the Coast Star is silent! …. Belmar taxpayers shouldn’t pay for their error …. or collusion.
18 it is possible either way, I don’t think Epic is that stupid to risk any impropriety that might be discovered later. The process and paperwork is a nightmare I did it if the date is wrong, page order of the rfp , on and on lots of ways to get tossed out of the bid.
Pool estimator is no fool. The 2 pavilions are going to cost $10,000,000. Mark your calendars for the change orders to come rolling of the lips of deblasio-doherty.
Right down the tubes with all the seafood festival era invitees at the 5th avenue concession
#14 Voter, It is obvious from your postings that you are not a person who has the courage of your convictions. You hide behind a pseudonym, afraid to have a one on one discussion with me. Until such time as you develop a backbone to stand up for what you believe to be right I will not answer you obviously incorrect conclusions, about me, my educated and experienced opinions, and my livelihood. Obviously you feel intellectually threatened by my postings here, and my appearance at the council meetings!
Come out from behind the curtain and let’s have an intelligent discussion.
This diatribe isn’t the least bit informative. Designed to obscure and confound the truth with sticks and stones dialogue. Getting older by the minute with the challenges= Put up your dukes at high noon? Belly up to the bar bucko or buckette… its just hysterical in the no transparency borough of belmarania. Cut and paste works for anyone. Post on FB, VINE OR RAGS if you ego needs a boost and adulation by posting your given names.
Don’t everyone forget that if Doherty can’t bring in the Taylor for $4.1 mil he said to me he would personally lead the recall for him. I will remind him, and attempting to obfuscate with “change” orders won’t cut it!
#23 I remember him saying that to you loud and clear. Personally, I am holding him to the part where he told us along with every other council member that “it is going to be free.”
Read Belmar’s responsive pleading.. What is said from the dias cannot be relied upon.
Hope
I’m really thinking of moving to Alaska. But my arthritis would be worse there. This town is a financial ship wreck ..
Old Man: That’s a great name for the 5th Avenue fiasco…”The Shipwreck Shallows”
It may end up the “Shipwrecked Bar and Grill”
Casino gambling in Monmouth County. That’s the ticket to buy
I would like to ask something if Taylor has to be rebuilt in the footprint are they using the original foundation that has been buried under sand or are they going to replace it.
I think but am not sure that all those pylons were trimmed back and they won’t be high enough.That building had minor damage on the south west corner as all the pictures taken show why would they knock the whole building down? Opinion?
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