Beachfront is still going to cost the same amount to operate. This bill simply shifts part of the cost of running the beach from those with teenagers to those without teenagers.
Disagree. A large percent of beach problems are caused by those snot nosed kids. If passed the towns will raise fess for everyone else. Dumbies. Typical political BS
If there are fees to use the beach, everyone, EVERYONE, should pay something, except babies under 2 years of age. End discrimination. I’m special, I’m special—gimme a break. Or make beach access free and increase taxes. In Belmar style, hold an annual fundraiser to defray costs. D’Jais?
This is really a negative space. You guys got the guy you wanted, Walsifer, and now trash him too. You seem to hate everything and everyone. Now teenagers are the enemy? If not for young people, who is going to care for you when you revert back to diapers? It should be called “Chronic Commplainers of Belmar” Is there anything you like about living here? Here is an idea that made a difference in Asbury Park. How about you help your less fortunate neighbors enjoy the beach during the hours life guards are on duty? The beach should be for everyone. I am moving soon but here is something useful and kind one of you lifers could try. I am moving to a peaceful place with more space between neighbors. Living among petty whiners has made me long for rural life in the woods. https://www.facebook.com/671039856/posts/10157447086389857/
Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 6:57 am|Permalink
Matt Deux wrote:
Ned Thompson (r), sponsor of the bill says the Belmar town officials asked him to do this? Wonder why. The cut off age is currently 16 and they want to make it 17? Seems like an odd bill to spend any time on. Having the cut off at 16 certainly makes it family friendly already. Making it 17 will result in kids that can drive to come down in bigger numbers. That’s not exactly family friendly. Plus the law would just ‘allow’ towns to enact it. You know Avon and SL won’t change the way they do things. Meaning more for us. This is almost like Matt is still in charge pandering for name recognition. Is Mark planning on a Freeholder run or something?
Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 7:00 am|Permalink
Craig wrote:
#2 and they’re paying with less taxes than we are here in NJ. Highest property taxes plus beach fees.
Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 8:24 am|Permalink
admin wrote:
Here in NH the state pays the lifeguards, yet we have no income tax, no sales tax and the property taxes, while pretty high, are still less than in NJ. Obviously things can be done better in NJ. But I don’t think they ever will be.
Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 8:31 am|Permalink
I'm New Here wrote:
Correct me if I’m wrong, anyone, but weren’t we told in the beginning of the season that Belmar had a lack of surplus in the beach utility? Do we now have so much surplus that we can afford to give badges away to 16- and 17-year-olds? Anyone 15 and under already gets onto Belmar beaches for free, so adding 16- and 17-year-olds to that law is what our boro officials are suggesting.
What could possibly happen? Seasonal badges could see another decrease in sales. We could see a drop in dailies (since YOU get on for FREE, and YOU get on for FREE, and YOU get on for FREE!). Even more if the weather is bad. And to make up for that potentially lost revenue? Daily badge prices will rise again, as will the parking fee, as we’re already aware are most likely go from $1 to $2 an hour (to partly make up for the shortfall in the parking utility budget).
16 and 17-year-olds are not coming to the beach with their parents. They’re coming with friends, several of them. For a town so deep in debt and desperate for revenue, I just don’t understand the logic behind this bill.
Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 3:15 pm|Permalink
OLD MAN wrote:
#12 should not have moved here
Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 7:07 pm|Permalink
Identity crisis wrote:
Didn’t Bean lose to Thompson in the Monmouth County Freeholder Election?
Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 7:28 pm|Permalink
Resident wrote:
#14 Do you mean assembly? And the answer is no. A few years ago when Rible left and was reappointed, there was an assembly seat to be filled. So the republican county committee was looking for people to take his place. Bean put his name in, but it went to Thompson, another Wall guy who is good friends with Rible.
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It’s embarrassing how every other state can manage their beaches and workforce without beach fees.
However they do it, somebody is paying.
This is NJ. Our government has difficulty running everything with everyone else’s money. Free free free. Why work?
High school children should not have to pay for beach badges our taxes are high enough in the state New Jersey they should be covered.
Disagree. A large percent of beach problems are caused by those snot nosed kids. If passed the towns will raise fess for everyone else. Dumbies. Typical political BS
If there are fees to use the beach, everyone, EVERYONE, should pay something, except babies under 2 years of age. End discrimination. I’m special, I’m special—gimme a break. Or make beach access free and increase taxes. In Belmar style, hold an annual fundraiser to defray costs. D’Jais?
ANY proposed beach fee legislation is risky … the majority in Trenton represent districts without ocean beaches
This is really a negative space. You guys got the guy you wanted, Walsifer, and now trash him too. You seem to hate everything and everyone. Now teenagers are the enemy? If not for young people, who is going to care for you when you revert back to diapers? It should be called “Chronic Commplainers of Belmar” Is there anything you like about living here? Here is an idea that made a difference in Asbury Park. How about you help your less fortunate neighbors enjoy the beach during the hours life guards are on duty? The beach should be for everyone. I am moving soon but here is something useful and kind one of you lifers could try. I am moving to a peaceful place with more space between neighbors. Living among petty whiners has made me long for rural life in the woods. https://www.facebook.com/671039856/posts/10157447086389857/
Ned Thompson (r), sponsor of the bill says the Belmar town officials asked him to do this? Wonder why. The cut off age is currently 16 and they want to make it 17? Seems like an odd bill to spend any time on. Having the cut off at 16 certainly makes it family friendly already. Making it 17 will result in kids that can drive to come down in bigger numbers. That’s not exactly family friendly. Plus the law would just ‘allow’ towns to enact it. You know Avon and SL won’t change the way they do things. Meaning more for us. This is almost like Matt is still in charge pandering for name recognition. Is Mark planning on a Freeholder run or something?
#2 and they’re paying with less taxes than we are here in NJ. Highest property taxes plus beach fees.
Here in NH the state pays the lifeguards, yet we have no income tax, no sales tax and the property taxes, while pretty high, are still less than in NJ. Obviously things can be done better in NJ. But I don’t think they ever will be.
Correct me if I’m wrong, anyone, but weren’t we told in the beginning of the season that Belmar had a lack of surplus in the beach utility? Do we now have so much surplus that we can afford to give badges away to 16- and 17-year-olds? Anyone 15 and under already gets onto Belmar beaches for free, so adding 16- and 17-year-olds to that law is what our boro officials are suggesting.
What could possibly happen? Seasonal badges could see another decrease in sales. We could see a drop in dailies (since YOU get on for FREE, and YOU get on for FREE, and YOU get on for FREE!). Even more if the weather is bad. And to make up for that potentially lost revenue? Daily badge prices will rise again, as will the parking fee, as we’re already aware are most likely go from $1 to $2 an hour (to partly make up for the shortfall in the parking utility budget).
16 and 17-year-olds are not coming to the beach with their parents. They’re coming with friends, several of them. For a town so deep in debt and desperate for revenue, I just don’t understand the logic behind this bill.
#12 should not have moved here
Didn’t Bean lose to Thompson in the Monmouth County Freeholder Election?
#14 Do you mean assembly? And the answer is no. A few years ago when Rible left and was reappointed, there was an assembly seat to be filled. So the republican county committee was looking for people to take his place. Bean put his name in, but it went to Thompson, another Wall guy who is good friends with Rible.
So he lost the committee vote to Thompson!
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