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And how many tax dollars are the new construction monstrosities contributing to Belmar ?????
To the school nothing.
More trickery? Why wasn’t this on the ballot 2 weeks ago? What fools the taxpayers if Belmar are again taken for.
#3— it is scheduled for a vote in March, and this was a Board of Ed thing not mayor and counsel, it seems like they brought it up in a meeting last night if you read the article.
#1- Jersey Mike a tenant of one of those buildings has been going around trying to fundraise for the elementary school and all everyone did was bash the place for its sign and being fast food.
Again a no win here because everyone focuses on the negative
No fast food under redevelopment. if he wants the tax breaks he should obey the regulations.
Send those snot nosed kids to another school
BELMAR is a mini Abbot District
The lousy school is one of our biggest problems. It’s like a festering wound that never gets better.
#4 – Of course it is a March vote, which means low turn-out as compared to regular November elections. They knew about these proposed expenditures and the grant well before last night and should have ran with it at the last election, along with the 3 school board seats that were voted upon then.
Get Energy Audit first see if Grant monies are available from public utilities. Light bulb exchanges were available to businesses free of charge as well as a conservative initiative. More out there. Did any of our elected
BOE members attend the Stnj League of Municipalities Convention this week to maybe enjoy and inhale any other programs other municipalities are taking advantage of in 2020?
Hey #4. Correct me if I’m wrong but the Jersey Mike’s building is under the pilot program which doesn’t pay squat the the school.
BELMAR Elementary School is an exceptional place of learning. Proof of this is how successful our students are as they go one to high schools and colleges. Basics taught and mastered by students at the school carry them through places of higher learning. Also, the state of NJ now mandates what is taught in classrooms throughout NEW JERSEY. What is taught is dictated by the education department of NJ. Our BELMAR teachers do an excellent job of delivering instruction to our children. I know this first-hand.
#12 I still say send them all someplace else. You are wrong. Thoses kids are lucky if they master the english when they “move on to higher learning”
#12 – Of course, “education” is a good thing, but with everything that is “good”, we humans always go too far and make the good thing into something bad. Now, we’ve done it with education. About 6th-8th grade would be fine for most students. Once boys and girl hit puberty, they don’t care what the teacher is droning on about. They should be out being put to use by either their families or the state (pick up trash along the highways). But not sitting around taking up space wondering about Susie Q and vice-versa.
#4 it is great that the new Jersey Mike’s is donating money to the school. However, as Dave points out-there is no fast food allowed as laid out in the redevelopment rules. Also, the developer is using the Doherty era PILOT program and therefore all of the tenants (some may have children attending the school) do not pay school taxes. There has been a lot of talk on the blog lately about too much bitching and not enough blessing among the Belmar citizens. This particular boondoggle falls directly in the category of qualified bitching. The school lost a ton of state aid and now we have-how many new condo units? 150?200?250? all of which are not subject to paying school taxes. So when the bond comes up in March and you are furious over the money needed, you can thank Tom Brennan, Brian McGovern, Jen Nicolay, and, the puppet master himself, Matt Doherty. These problems that his administration caused will be with us for decades. Tom Brennan collects a pension from the school-Jen and Matt have children in the school. The fact that they sold the school down the river for some temporary campaign exposure is unconscionable.
I could support making improvements to the BES if the building provides shelter for residents when a storm evacuation order is issued.
agree with #10’s comments regarding incentives for energy efficiency … also, the building roof is Belmar’s best candidate for large scale solar energy … enough electricity to meet the school’s needs and make a couple of bucks selling the solar certificates.
other school districts are harvesting ‘green’ Sun energy
We have an excellent education system in this country. If young teens ended the learning process in the 8th grade, what becomes of our needed professionals such as doctors, dentists, etc? Consider what would happen if learning stopped. Advanced math is part of many professions , such as engineering and architecture . Writing reports is essential in many job markets. How about government employees who represent our nation with foreign countries? They need to know languages other than ENGLISH. Learning can’t stop. The future of our country is based on education-goes beyond picking up trash. By the way, scads of middle school students are interested in school subjects. I can attest to this. They look beyond . They want to be prepared for high school and college. You are giving our students little credit for their intellects.
Gene: If there’s a plan for new roof it would be unconscionable not to put a solar system now. Any contractors or Public Utility contacts out there to guide in the most efficient and cost-effective manner?
#18 … in NJ there are many solar contractors offering deals ranging from no-cost to customer-owned installations.
btw- it may not be necessary to replace the existing roof … solar panels extend the life of a roof by blocking the harmful effects of the Sun
#17 – If young teens ended the learning process in the 8th grade
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Sir/Madam, Nothing stops the learning process. All I’m saying here is that there should be alternatives to this now mostly obsolete process we have in place. We should look in depth at the overall situation before us. Just shoveling more and more money at the schools in no way will help our young people who know how to blot out what the teacher is saying and move on to their interests. They know how to absorb enough “knowledge” (forgotten 10 mins. after the exam)to write down on a piece of paper what the instructor has told them will get them a passing grade. There has to be a massive change in what we’re doing educationally. But in our case, there is a lot of resistance to change from people who make money from the existing process of what we know of as education. We must understand that what was correct 11yrs. ago is not so today. Just look at the children and you can see it. I’ll list some thoughts on changes below.
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possible shop classes
possibility of young men and women opting out of schooling at maybe 12-14 yrs. of age.
after 8th grade, those still in academic schools choosing their own reading material
physical training becoming a required course.
group projects
many field trips
dancing and singing requirements
possible segregated (by sex) schools after 8th grade
These are just some concepts that must be looked at.
Otherwise, you just have more of the same which is a total negative for the taxpayer.
20-Way off base. Every position/job has formal educational requirements. Can’t be achieved by your method. Has to happen in a classroom setting. You never addressed the professions required for all of us-doctors, etc. has to be formal training only K-8, high school, medical school can provide. You are the person not thinking in depth about today’s society.
I must say it’s ridiculous that American kids go to school from age 4 till age 18 with no skills (other than the skills needed for jobs that teenagers do). Instead of free college we should be looking at what’s already “free” and make it better. Little steps have been taken – vocational schools are available to high school kids during regular school time, and dual enrollment with Brookdale is a great option too. Some kids will graduate Manasquan with an associates degree from Brookdale, some will have taken enough classes in the trades that they could get a job. This is the area we need to move toward.
Vocational option should be made available to all adolescents.
#23 – Yes, but the training shouldn’t be handled by the local or state BOE. All training should be done by tradesmen. We’ve all had enough of “teachers” If teachers are involved, the concept is DOA before it even starts. Possibly, the students could do the first half day in school and the afternoon at the job or vice versa.
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The students should also be allowed to leave school at a younger age, 12-14.
Classes should be segregated by sex.
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Okay, Local 11 (Newark)is giving an apprenticeship test next year. There are FAQ’s below. But to get an application to take the test, the candidate must go up and personally get the application. I’m putting this on here because there are many people with young relatives or a neighbors son/daughter who might benefit from this.
The phone# is (973)376-7230.
One last thing, this is serious business. Not a joke. A young man can make a decent living at this work and benefit in many other ways if he throws himself into the work. He can also get injured doing this work. The new info is not out yet but there will be a test. Don’t worry about the stated 2019 year on this. Just follow the directions. The applications will be picked up in 2020.
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.
Ironworkers Apprenticeship
Training Fund FAQ
How do I get an application for the Apprenticeship Program?
How long is the apprenticeship?
When would I attend classes during my apprenticeship?
Where do I attend apprenticeship or journeyman upgrade classes?
Can I continue taking courses after I finish my apprenticeship?
Do I have to pay to take apprentice or journeyman upgrade classes?
How do I enroll in Journeyman Upgrade courses?
Q. How do I get an application for the Apprenticeship Program?
You must come to the training facility at 12 Edison Place in Springfield New Jersey to get or fill out your application. The application process will open on Monday, January 14, 2019 and will end Friday, January 18, 2019. Applications accepted Monday thru Friday between 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM EST except for holidays.
Please bring with you the following documents…
•A high school diploma (or a GED – General Equivalency Diploma).
•Proof of legal resident or legal resident alien of the United States (i.e. Birth Certificate, Passport…etc).
•A valid driver’s license.
•Check or money order for $15.00. No cash or credit cards accepted.
Q. How long is the apprenticeship?
Four years.
Q. When would I attend classes during my apprenticeship?
Apprenticeship classes are usually at night or on weekends.
Q. Where do I attend apprenticeship or journeyman upgrade classes?
Classes are held at the Ironworkers Training Facility in Springfield, New Jersey.
Q. Can I continue taking courses after I finish my apprenticeship?
Yes. Once you successfully finish the Apprenticeship Program and become a journeyman, you can take courses offered in the Journeyman Upgrade Program.
Q. Do I have to pay to take apprentice or journeyman upgrade classes?
No. The cost of all courses offered by the Training Program is covered by the contribution employers make, as specified in collective bargaining agreements.
Q. How do I enroll in Journeyman Upgrade courses?
Contact your Local or the Ironworkers Training Facility.
Mr. Dilberger-Check this week’s Coast Star. An Hispanic student was honored with a special award. There goes your theory about our Hispanic students. I will continue to support any and all of our students, regardless of ethnicity. I will praise them to the hilt. And do so publicly. If they are one of our own, I’ll go above and beyond to recognize them. Remember, if a person is born here, he/she is a citizen. Many of our students, born of Hispanic parents, are born here. Many of our Hispanic students have been recognized for academic strides. Now I notice that Hispanics will be given privileges with driving. Hurray! Also, the candidate you supported lost -big time. Did you really think someone who went against his political party would win? Your sandwich board didn’t work. You claimed people were receptive to your candidate. Not so much. He lost by over 300 votes! Why would you support a person who went against his own party? Good luck the next time he runs. Your prejudices hindered your candidate. I’ve heard this from many people. Also, you are against Belmar School. This hurt your candidate as well. Mayor Mark Walsifer was a board of education member for many years. Any candidate he supported would win. His dedication to the school is well known. All of your negativity hurt your candidate. Next time your favorited candidate runs, take a low profile. People remember that you yelled and carried on at board meetings. Standing on chairs-against what most public schools profess. This hurts your credibility. Give it up. What is your background for evaluating education programs? Are you an educator? Did you take college courses focused on learning? Why are you against our education system? Our children go on to college, success, and becoming productive citizens. What time have you spent inside a classroom? I would love to monitor a person who quits school in the eighth grade as you profess, to see how life is going for them.
Mmmmon education
I hope everyone had an enjoyable Thanksgiving yesterday
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#26 – Interesting post. First, the picture of the Hispanic girl being honored, is just a photoop of two sad sack characters using her as a prop.
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“And do so publicly” – It doesn’t seem your doing so publicly to me, or is your actual name, “ANALYSIS”?
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Your reference to our mayor and his tenure on the boe is interesting. I will get into that subject when the time is right.
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Your idea of birthright citizenship isn’t correct. When two alien intruders engage in the act of copulation, the issue of the union cannot be thought of as “legal citizens.” Criminals cannot hope to have their criminal behavior rewarded by the state.
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If Jim didn’t want me to campaign for him, he would have told me. I hope I didn’t hurt him, but there is a possibility I did I guess.
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“Also, you are against Belmar School” – I’m against all education as it is set up these days. It is wrong to attempt to educate these children as if there are no differences between them and the children who lived 100+ years ago when this system was set up. It’s obsolete.
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My own experience in education was sad to say the least. But I did teach a bit in the service and in my trade (Ironworker).
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The good thing about college is that finally, young men are more and more understanding it’s mostly of no use to them and are not going(there are negative sides to that as well, but more positive).
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Yes, carrying on at the boe was a good thing. If I hadn’t done that and sat there quietly, I would have been complicit in the lousy things they were doing to the taxpayers.
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Belmar School has been great for my children. They went on to high school well-prepared, thanks to the teachers at Belmar School. They are presently in college and doing well.
#28 – I apologize for my lack of communicative skills because I know it couldn’t be your lack of reading comprehension.
Education system is not obsolete. If it were, we would have a country of nothingness…no physicians, or dentists, or engineers, no nurses, and so on. Their ways of practicing/working wouldn’t fit into today’s society if our Ed system is obsolete. Climbing trees and throwing stones wouldn’t do it for society. Hands-on training is part of all professional preparations. Why do you want to do away with traditional learning? Also, technology is taught throughout the country. Very up-to-date. Please detail what your ideas for present day education.
#30 … if u r looking for ideas for present day education … take a look at the Research Triangle school districts in North Carolina…
https://www.cbs17.com/news/education/kindergartners-at-raleigh-school-learning-to-be-fluent-in-mandarin-chinese/
Yes Gene, everybody knows a little child can be taught multiple languages at very early ages. But rather than Chinese, I’d recommend learning German (the language of mathematics). As far as languages go – TE Lawrence was fluent in 9 languages – YIKES
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#30 – Nothing wrong with learning physical fitness. It’s what boys need more than ever with the dawn of the new manner of living. It’s what’s missing in their lives. If they’re sat down in a classroom and spoken to all day they become disinterested and then of course, unruly.
They must be freed from this stifling atmosphere. Girls of course don’t react this was to classroom work but because of their nature, take their lead from the boys.
So outdoors is great, but how will they manage a job or profession without ongoing language arts and math skills? Classroom learning is important. How about testing results that entry jobs require? How about college ? That will not be a good idea-just outdoors for boys. Maybe since the girls will continue classes in school, according to you, they’ll get the jobs and positions that boys aren’t prepared for because they’re throwing rocks and climbing trees. There has to be more to it than what you are stating . What is the new way of living? You are not thinking in depth, as you state about others. How will boys learn what they need to move on into adulthood and responsibilities? How would a boy learn advanced math with your ideas? How would he learn to write an essay for college?
#32 Mr. Dildoberger- Do you have your PHd in education and psychology/behavior? Good thing you fools will be extinct soon. Do you work hard at being a sexist bigot? I hope you do not have any direct influence over young children.
#33 – What is the new way of living? – the idea that people have become incredibly introverted, not wanting to talk, read anything, walk, go outdoors for more than a few mins. at a time in anything other than the “best weather,” constantly thinking of money, etc., etc., etc. Good question sir/madam.
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#34 – Do you work hard at being a sexist bigot? – No, it’s all just natural ability with me.
#35’s way of living:
Talk (without listening),
Read (what fits with his nostalgic at best and racist at worst mentality)
Walk (on Rt. 35),
Don’t think about money (because he’s getting social security and doesn’t have a family to support).
35-None of the people I know-old and young-fit your description of the “new way of living.” They do everything you claim they don’t. None of them are introverted and they all read and love the outdoors. Conversations are lengthy and interesting-and cross over from the elderly to the young. I have no idea who you are referencing. My job requires me to interact with many people-young and old-from all walks of life. You couldn’t possibly come in contact with the number of people I see on a daily basis.
#37 – Oh well, you and I disagree.
#36 – “Don’t think about money”
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Sir, madam, I don’t usually respond to your interesting remarks but I will say this about your above quote. I’ve always felt this way from being a very young boy. I never thought much about money and I didn’t know what to make of it when in life, I saw that people were beginning to primarily focus on money. So here’s my thoughts – The only thing in life that is worth anything is a [product and the work that went into the making of the product] (in a man that’s something spiritual). Money is just a byproduct of the above mentioned two things. Without the first two, there can be, and never will be money. We’ve elevated an illusion of money into a product in and of itself and the things money can buy and the attainment of money and things into a religious sacrament. I don’t expect you to understand any of that because I think it obvious your venom towards me will not allow you to understand it(too bad)and you are mired in the new manner of living, but I said it hoping it may be of some help to someone else. Possibly I’m wrong and you may be able to understand.
“To a karma yogi, right work done well is a form of prayer. It (karma yoga) is one of the paths in the spiritual practices of Hindus.” Problem, in my opinion, is that many people do not love or enjoy what they do. Money is a reward or byproduct of that work, meaning more to the worker if the effort had any joy or pleasure involved in its practice. Whistle while you work, just not when crossing the street.
Dilberger votes for the people who want to amass wealth for a select few while claiming to be against this new manner of living. He’s really gone…..
41-So true.You make a great point about Mr. D. He’s coined the phrase. “New manner of living.” Empty phrase. Money has been very important to people throughout the ages. Not just now.
Money has no soul, nor should it have such, and certainly, the importance of and pursuit of have been paramount historically, matters not in dispute. Think about the story of King Midas, what is important in life. The lilies in the field do not toil or spin, but are beautiful in themselves by their own virtue. An uncontaminated human is a beautiful thing, although rare. I believe that Mr. Dilberger gets that, if I could be so presumptuous. The other Mr. D, the former mayor, was a master of twisting a concept and perverting it into something else.
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#s 41&42 – Read what Flower Power is saying. You might learn something.
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Of course, people need money according to the way this world is set up. But to become obsessed with money and to teach children to be obsessed as well is a sin of the worst kind.
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Flower Power, I love the Stones myself, but nothing ever can beat Jerry Lee Lewis’ performance at the Paramount in the 1950s. Oh yeah, I’ve always been partial to fire. I love it that the performance went on even with the fire blazing. Great stuff.
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I love Jerry Lee as well.
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#47 – Can you imagine these nitwits brought up under the precepts of the new manner of living setting a fire to a piano in the Asbury Park Convention Hall nowadays? The entire county of Monmouth would burn to the ground and there’d be hundreds of thousands of deaths and casualties with these unreal incompetents (only acknowledged incompetents are allowed to rise to positions of power/authority here in the people’s republic of n.j.) dealing with the inferno (I mean that only in the best way of course). Yet in another time, Jerry Lee Lewis could do it in the packed Paramount in Brooklyn and they finished the song and only then put the fire out. No one got hurt. So what’s the difference – competence vs incompetence.
In 1967 Jimi Hendrix set his guitar on fire at the Monterey Pop Festival.
http://www.historyvshollywood.com/video/jimi-hendrix-guitar-burning/
These days I can only think of lawsuits. There will always be “bad boys” – not meant to be sexist in the worst possible way. “Girls” are not angels either. Maybe all the extreme examples can be included in the category of art. But JLL was unique for sure and Little Richard is still rockin’ when the spirit hits him.
My favorite was when he married his 13 year old cousin (claims she was 15). Imagine the nitwits today if a famous performer married his 13 year old cousin? They’s probably all freak out- bunch of puritans. God I miss the olden times. I hate this new manner of age of consent.
Oh and there was that Great White concert in Rhode Island back in ’03 where 100 people were killed and 230 were injured. Started from some pyrotechnics. Maybe that would explain why it’s not a great idea to start a fire in a crowded music hall. It’s not a problem…until it is.
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