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Stop Using Force Against Belmar’s Businesses

They are already paying property tax. Make the SID voluntary.

 

(I guess I wouldn’t have been invited down there.)

23 Comments

  1. admin wrote:

    ……BBP’s crucial role in promoting the business sector through cooperative advertising, events, façade grants and beautification efforts — in partnership with the borough.

    Small businesses don’t have the resources that a collective partnership has, working with a municipality, to promote those businesses and to promote the downtown to get shoppers here…….. foster economic development and revitalization through private and public partnerships.

    What ever happened to free enterprise? To me this sounds more like something out of an Ayn Rand novel.

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 9:21 am | Permalink
  2. BBP simple as ABC wrote:

    Exactly- The town should be promoting the local businesses because a thriving business occupies a building space and pays taxes. So why force them to all pitch in for what they should get anyway?
    Also- Parking on Main St. Make the spots on the southbound side diagonal side by side spots (like Sylvania in Avon). You’d get 2-3 cars for every single space there now. Plus the cars coming over the bridge from Avon would slow down just based on the angle of the parked cars. Win win. This has been discussed for almost 20 years. Just friggin do it already.

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 10:11 am | Permalink
  3. What Say You Admin? wrote:

    And what does this sound like to you:

    Belmar’s commercial sector will be able to grow as more buildings go up, offering more retail space

    ?

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 10:13 am | Permalink
  4. bussiness owner wrote:

    B.S. It’s just another tax and level of attempted control.

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 10:14 am | Permalink
  5. hhhmmmmm wrote:

    Carvelli: “That’s why we are committed to striking tax incentive deals with developers, instead of PILOTS, that preserve current tax revenues and assessments for all parties and phase in the final assessment once construction is completed,” he said.

    Can someone please explain to me what the difference is? Didn’t he just describe a PILOT?

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 10:54 am | Permalink
  6. Aileen wrote:

    I think what he means by tax incentive deals is that developers get a tax break until the project is complete, then pay the full tax rate based on the finished product assessment. I’m not sure but I do know he didn’t describe a PILOT.

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 12:57 pm | Permalink
  7. Anonymous wrote:

    Carvelli is a joke. He needs to go.

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 1:04 pm | Permalink
  8. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    I don’t see much ahead for retail stores. As people move more and more to the new manner of living foot traffic will continue to lessen and shops will suffer. All anyone has to do is look around at the empty storefronts now. And don’t forget, there’s already new empty store fronts down at where Strollo’s was. Sure, there’ll always be the specialty shops that open for the summer and close after Labor Day. But that doesn’t mean we should be adding new retail space when the day of such stores is over with just like newspapers.

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 1:10 pm | Permalink
  9. the Commish wrote:

    It’s not the role of government to promote business but to simply provide an atmosphere where you can pursue your goals.
    Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your company. A quote from JFK.

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 1:24 pm | Permalink
  10. Positives on dias wrote:

    Poll the BBP, members as investors in Belmar, for their take on each candidate’s presentation above.

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 2:05 pm | Permalink
  11. Anonymous wrote:

    Dilberger – I guess that means you disagree with your man Bean?

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 3:15 pm | Permalink
  12. Anonymous wrote:

    Tom Carvell- A dedicated Parking Authority???? Not. We do not need more of his hand picked people on this already bloated payroll. We need to lay off people. But again these new guys, and gal, don’t have the bells to do it. Vote them out.

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 3:48 pm | Permalink
  13. Anonymous wrote:

    #11, I’ll answer that with an Ed Koch quote – “If you agree with me on nine out of 12 issues, vote for me. If you agree with me on 12 out of 12, see a psychiatrist,”
    ————————————–
    Jim and I are pretty much on the same side on the vast amount of issues. He’s the only one running who has any in-depth idea of what’s going on and a reasonable overall plan to get us out of the financial mess and if he ever gets elected mayor he means to actually do it. But the first order of business is to get him elected to town council.

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 4:02 pm | Permalink
  14. #12 – And put who in? Those straight-talking, independent-thinking women who won’t raise taxes?

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 4:08 pm | Permalink
  15. ANONYMOUS wrote:

    https://wiss.com/blog/pilot-programs-in-new-jersey/

    Under New Jersey’s Payment In Lieu of Taxes (“PILOT”) program (N.J.S.A. 40A:20-1), many distressed areas of the state are seeing a resurgence. The PILOT program allows municipalities to exempt developers from property taxes for a set period of time when making improvements to existing buildings or creating new projects in areas in need of redevelopment, aiming to encourage commercial, residential, and industrial development. Developers would pay an annual service charge to the municipality instead of regular real estate taxes.

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 4:13 pm | Permalink
  16. admin wrote:

    Belmar is not a distressed area.

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 5:01 pm | Permalink
  17. ANONYMOUS wrote:

    I believe no taxes are paid on a structure until a CO is given. That’s how houses sat empty on ocean ave for months back in the late 2000’s.

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 4:25 pm | Permalink
  18. Anonymous wrote:

    Two types of PILOTS… Look it up or copy from Aileen.

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 10:20 pm | Permalink
  19. eugene creamer wrote:

    #15 & #16 … in addition to redevelopment areas … Belmar (the whole town) is an area in need of rehabilitation

    the Local Housing Redevelopment Law area designations remain forever … or M&C action.

    Sunday, October 20, 2019 at 10:33 pm | Permalink
  20. Broke to the future wrote:

    Admin is right. Belmar doesn’t need to entice developers with tax deferred programs. There’s plenty of money to be made. It’s just a race to the bottom when municipalities compete for developers with stronger and stronger tax free incentives. They go for immediate gratification at the expense of long term financial realities. There are areas in NJ that can and do benefit from these types of programs, but even then it’s fraught with problems down the line.

    Monday, October 21, 2019 at 7:21 am | Permalink
  21. Aileen wrote:

    #17 – If the town can’t give a Cert. of Occupancy because a house is uninhabitable, a Transfer of Title is given. The building’s taxes are paid at the old assessment until the new Cert. Of Occupancy is given and the town gives a new assessment.

    #19 – Didn’t we overturn the designation for Ocean Ave. when Matt’s council voted it to be an area of redevelopment (or improvement)? They cited blight due to Sandy but since we were getting FEMA (and for all the other reasons we’re not blighted) it was switched back. No?

    Monday, October 21, 2019 at 7:42 am | Permalink
  22. Anonymous wrote:

    Aileen, you are correct. We opposed dirty’s sneaky post Sandy Ocean Ave, redevelopment scheme and prevailed against him. Check out WHO voted with McDirty back then.

    Monday, October 21, 2019 at 10:25 am | Permalink
  23. admin wrote:

    He tried unsuccessfully to designate the beachfront as an area in need of redevelopment. But he did make the whole rest of the town an “area in need of rehabilitation” which allowed for tax abatements for people improving or adding additions to their houses.

    Monday, October 21, 2019 at 10:34 am | Permalink

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