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  1. OLD MAN wrote:

    I’m here from a government hired company and want to help you. Yea sure…..DUH

    Saturday, December 24, 2016 at 10:17 am | Permalink
  2. ALLTRUMPEDUP wrote:

    According to the displayed assessment, their net town taxes went down 4%. My taxes went up .2%. Anyone else care to complain??

    Saturday, December 24, 2016 at 10:52 am | Permalink
  3. elemental wrote:

    Remember that the mayor was hoping to be outta here January 1st…uh duh…

    I like the last sentence about being prompt.

    Saturday, December 24, 2016 at 11:02 am | Permalink
  4. Belmar Dude wrote:

    Went up 50% for me. I hope the Mayor got hammered in his new digs.

    Saturday, December 24, 2016 at 1:18 pm | Permalink
  5. Katrina wrote:

    Folks it’s all about the tax rate.

    Saturday, December 24, 2016 at 3:02 pm | Permalink
  6. ALLTRUMPEDUP wrote:

    I understand the adjusted local tax rate due to the new value assessments. Does anyone know whether the rate taxed by the county is also adjusted for Belmar or does a 50% increase in assessed value equal a 50% increase in county tax due?

    Saturday, December 24, 2016 at 11:12 pm | Permalink
  7. OLD MAN wrote:

    Now I gottaaaa move. Maybe to Alaska?

    Sunday, December 25, 2016 at 10:11 am | Permalink
  8. Ken Pringle wrote:

    I believe the example evaluation figures in the letter are the average assessed value ($345,500) and the new average assessed value ($557,000) after the revaluation (although this will likely go down slightly due to appeals). The increase is a little more than 61%. You can estimate how you your municipal and school board taxes will be affected by comparing the percentage increase for your property against the 61% average increase for all properties.

    The effect of the reval on the county tax portion of the bill involves another calculation, because municipal property assessments are “equalized” in an effort to account for how out-of-date property assessments are. Below is a link to the state page showing the equalized value of the property assessments in each of the towns in Monmouth County for 2016. You’ll see that Belmar’s property assessments were estimated in 2016 to be 67% of “true value”(the next lowest was 78% and only 3 other towns were below 90). By my calculations, if we had been assessed at 100% on the 2016 equalization chart, Belmar taxpayers’ share of County tax levy would have been nearly $500,000 greater. So, we can all expect to share a much larger slice of the County tax levy next year.

    http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/taxation/pdf/lptval/2016/Monmouth.pdf

    One last thing to plan for. Our 1st and 2nd quarter tax bills in 2017 are estimated, based on last year’s tax rate and assessed valuation. When the 2017 bills come out (usually in July or August, any increase in your tax bill will be amplified because the entire increase is collected in the 3rd and 4th quarter bills. So plan accordingly.

    Monday, December 26, 2016 at 10:32 am | Permalink
  9. admin wrote:

    Ken, the letter says the $345,500 to $557,000 was just an example and not the average increase.

    Monday, December 26, 2016 at 6:12 pm | Permalink
  10. Aileen Fahy wrote:

    Ugh!
    For some Belmar residents, moving to Spring Lake could be a downsize.

    Monday, December 26, 2016 at 3:05 pm | Permalink
  11. Anonymous wrote:

    Ken, down here at Casablanca Maria, everyone wants to know if your office will be doing tax appeal s
    If not can you recommend a firm?

    Monday, December 26, 2016 at 7:37 pm | Permalink
  12. Ken Pringle wrote:

    Dave, the letter calls the example an illustration because the rate in 2017 will depend upon the municipal, school and county budgets. If you read the paragraph before the example, the letter says the new values are being used in the illustration: “Using the 2016 budget and the new values, the tax rate for 2016 would have been approximately $1.185 per $100 of assessment as compared with the actual rate of $1.911.”

    Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 6:17 am | Permalink
  13. admin wrote:

    aha

    Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 7:51 am | Permalink
  14. OLD MAN wrote:

    Is it really that cold in Alaska? Must be parts where old people with thin blood can tolerate the year round weather.

    Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 7:30 am | Permalink
  15. Anonymous wrote:

    Bring your tape recorder to any meeting you schedule with Realty Appraisal Company personnel then review your meeting notes with Mr. KIRSCHENBAUM to see what’s on the up and up in your favor.

    Tuesday, December 27, 2016 at 6:47 pm | Permalink
  16. Tax Poor wrote:

    Did anyone get a breakdown of land and improvements with their assessment? Mine was just a total. Called the company and they didn’t have that information and said I would have to schedule a meeting with the company to find out. I asked if they would send out that info for appeal purposes….reply was “probably not”…unbelievable…I just hung the phone up. On County Tax Board site: “Monmouth County Filing deadline of January 15, 2017 is extended to Tuesday January 17, 2017 in observance of holiday for all towns except Belmar and Spring Lake whose filing deadline is February 24, 2017”

    Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 5:02 pm | Permalink
  17. ALLTRUMPEDUP wrote:

    Would anyone know where to find these New Assessments posted for all properties? Mon. Ct. site still has old assessments.

    Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 8:43 pm | Permalink
  18. anonymous wrote:

    While we are looking at revals of our property there are several other factors that will affect what our tax cost will be. Does anyone have info on how many new ratables were added to the tax roll for 2016 and 2017? And we know the properties that were added under redevelopment agreements were sweet on the tax savings for the developers but as units are sold to new owners do they not go on the regular tax rolls at that point? Depending on the volume of newly added assessed property existing property owners should see some benefit to their tax bill unless of course all the money wasted on legal fees,mayoral pals and the like absorbs all the benefit that would otherwise accrue. If the info needed was available from boro hall you would have a truer picture of what it is costing tax payers to run a town that is about one square mile in size. Its the Jersey way now even at the good old Jersey Shore.

    Thursday, December 29, 2016 at 9:39 pm | Permalink
  19. Eugene Creamer wrote:

    Thank the Belmar Mayor and Council for the shocking changes to your property assessment …. in retrospect, it appears their action was an attempt to make political hay for a freeholder bid …. (after public education …. it wasn’t a campaign issue)
    From the January 7th Coast Star:
    BELMAR — The mayor and council unanimously voted to opt out of the Monmouth County Assessment Demonstration Program [ADP] last week.
    The action, taken at the council’s Dec. 28 meeting, follows the recent resolution by the Monmouth County Tax Board, allowing municipalities to opt out of the program for the 2017 tax year.
    When resident Eugene Creamer, of Fourth Avenue, asked the mayor and council exactly what they were trying to accomplish by opting out of the pilot program, Mayor Matt Doherty said the program does not seem to work well, and noted that Monmouth County is the only county in the state to utilize the ADP.
    “Also there seems to be a criminal investigation surrounding the program itself,” Mayor Doherty said after the meeting.
    The mayor said concerns are focused around whether or not the program is being administered properly — referring to the criminal investigation haunting the program — in addition to practical concerns comparing the program’s effectiveness to the former system.
    “So why continue forward with it?” Mayor Doherty said. “It’s a pilot program, [we’ve] tried them, sometimes they succeed, sometimes they don’t…if it doesn’t seem like it’s succeeding, why continue down that path?”
    In March 2013, Governor Chris Christie signed the ADP into law to begin in the 2014 tax year. According to the county’s website, the Monmouth County Board of Taxation and the Monmouth County Municipal Assessors signed on to be first in the state to participate in what is considered a “cost-saving program.”
    Belmar, like other municipalities in the county, was ordered by the Monmouth County Board of Taxation to implement the ADP which requires the tax assessor to annually perform town-wide reassessments and mandate that 20 percent of the properties within a municipality be inspected annually so that 100-percent of all properties are inspected every five years.
    According to the resolution, the mayor and council voted to opt out the program because it is believed that the ADP does not accurately reflect the market value, and inappropriately interferes with local tax assessors. The resolution also states that the program has a disproportionate adverse effect on residential and senior citizen property taxpayers.
    Opting out of the program is also a result of the new revised assessments certified by the county tax board for the 2015 tax year which resulted in residents reporting significant fluctuations in their 2015 tax assessments as a result of the program, and must make up the difference owed in only six months.
    In November, the mayor and council passed a resolution to request the suspension of the ADP. At that meeting, Mayor Doherty said there had been allegations of inappropriate conflicts of interest which called for the program to be investigated, leading more to the fact that it should be suspended.
    “I’m not sure if the county will come up with [a program] in place of the [ADP],” Mayor Doherty said. “I would prefer to go back to what the old system was, and I hope that’s what happens.”
    Councilman Tom Brennan said he also believes that the threat of litigation and possibility of a criminal charge in the establishment of the ADP is reason enough to opt out, though he believes the purpose of the program is laudable, and credited the idea that the program would avoid shocking changes in assessments.
    “The purpose of the program was really good, but the implementation has too many questions,” Mr. Brennan said. “When things settle down, start with a new program, with the same goals in and mind, keep a better eye on how things are done and not make the same mistakes.”

    Friday, December 30, 2016 at 8:12 am | Permalink
  20. Anonymous wrote:

    Aren’t the land assessments usually the same per block? If so, how hard is that assessment to make by the professional assessment company or Mullane? Will either tell taxpayers at their “meeting” today? By the way, the last day explanations are being offered, by the assessment company, to explain their rationale for each property to the individual taxpayer, is today,during Christmas and New Years vacation! You received your notice a week ago?

    Friday, December 30, 2016 at 9:29 am | Permalink
  21. ALLTRUMPEDUP wrote:

    Hypothetical?? Town assessment on a property is valued at $300k. Same property is sold in Feb. 17′ for $250k. Mortgage company appraisers value is $275k. Is this fact in itself grounds for a tax appeal?? And at what point is the fair value of the property established?? Any opinions or thoughts would be appreciated. Thank you and Happy New Year.

    Friday, December 30, 2016 at 10:07 am | Permalink
  22. Eugene Creamer wrote:

    #21 …. if the sale of the property for $250K is done at arm’s length …. it can be the basis of appeal.

    Friday, December 30, 2016 at 11:18 am | Permalink
  23. Anonymous wrote:

    Does anyone know if 14th avenue “Home By Summer”new home has been re assest.Id be curious to see what re assesment was set at and what new taxes would be on home compared to whats been going on there being that last assesment didnt add up with what is there.

    Friday, December 30, 2016 at 11:19 am | Permalink
  24. ALLTRUMPEDUP wrote:

    Thank you Gene. By “at an arm’s length” do you mean, on the market, with a realtor, yada yada. This happens to be a private sale at I believe is a fair market price. Also is it true that an appeal won’t be entertained unless the difference is 10% or more. Thank you.

    Friday, December 30, 2016 at 1:08 pm | Permalink
  25. OLD MAN wrote:

    #21,23,24 Best if you contact a lawyer. Comps should have been done on all homes. What has sold recently that is similar.

    Friday, December 30, 2016 at 3:37 pm | Permalink
  26. Anonymous wrote:

    Does the settlement deal between Reality and Wall impact our Appeals?

    Friday, December 30, 2016 at 7:07 pm | Permalink
  27. Starting to like GOP wrote:

    I think that Realty Appraisal Company should back up their appraisals by offering to buy every home for the new “current market value” which they have assigned. If they are not willing to buy it, then I guess perhaps the house is not worth the cmv.

    Friday, December 30, 2016 at 7:57 pm | Permalink
  28. Just Passing Through wrote:

    And you think we have problems?

    http://www.app.com/story/news/local/animals/2016/12/30/toms-river-woman-searches-lost-pet-duck/96003826/
    Happy New Year ALL

    Friday, December 30, 2016 at 11:11 pm | Permalink
  29. madame.snark wrote:

    To all who now say they want to move out of Belmar, you have justification to ask more money for your houses. Consequently, “People Not Politics” has some basis as a slogan as a result of the higher assessments. Matt, take a bow! We know you have had the town’s best interests in mind all along. On the other hand, if Belmar becomes a ghost town, you can redevelop the whole thing and make it like Las Vegas. Imagine the possibilities for exploitation.

    Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 9:35 am | Permalink
  30. Anonymous wrote:

    Trulia, Zillow.com FSBO

    Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 2:48 pm | Permalink
  31. Eugene Creamer wrote:

    Can’t believe it is necessary to have appointment at Boro Hall to get my land and improvement appraisals!

    Monmouth County does a much better job with their neat color post cards …. more information,no spin and postage cost less.

    Saturday, December 31, 2016 at 10:55 pm | Permalink
  32. matt: ruining Belmar wrote:

    happy new year

    Sunday, January 1, 2017 at 7:20 am | Permalink
  33. Tax Poor wrote:

    I was told at the meeting that postcards will be mailed giving land/improvements details. They did give that breakdown at the meeting. That should have been done in the first place. Once postcard is received, residents will be able to compare assessments on the County Tax Board site. Happy New Year to all.

    Sunday, January 1, 2017 at 12:12 pm | Permalink
  34. Steve wrote:

    Met with representative at Boro Hall. He knew nothing about Belmar. Never saw my house or block. I went up 90% in 6 years since my last appraisal.
    He took some notes but told me the next letter would be the final and that I would have to file with the county to get any further adjustments.

    Monday, January 2, 2017 at 3:00 pm | Permalink
  35. Anonymous wrote:

    Disgruntled might consider meeting at Boro hall before the council meetings whenever to get together to coordinate going to the County for relief. Yes that’s the original term for Welfare in the USA.

    Monday, January 2, 2017 at 6:29 pm | Permalink

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