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51 Comments
Close the dumb school and let the children go to Asbury Park. That way we can get rid of the dumb school supt., administration staff and teachers all in one swoop. Seems like a winning idea to me.
#1 Great idea. Get rid of all thoses “students” and “teachers”.
#1 I thought you liked the school. You always seemed like a person who really cares about the youth of today. A person that sees the potential in every child. A person full of hope and wonder that has no prejudice toward his fellow man. A person that understands the value of a well funded school for the benefit of the community.
#3 This average school should be shut down. No matter what amount of money we give the teachers the damn parents may not help in their childrens well being. I say close the darn place and let somebody else worry about these snot nose kids
If both councilman win re-election with no push back from the town for the large tax increase, how much will next years municipal tax increase be?
My bet is 12%. They will just blame it on the past administration again while putting new flooring in the rest of the boroughs buildings. You can’t run a town in a budget crises without new floors.
2/5/19 – New Flooring for Mayor, Finance & OEM offices $2,538.96
#3 – Yes, That’s exactly what I’m thinking of, whut’s best for our community. Especially geting rid of the dumb school supt., administration staff and “teachurs”.
No matter how much money that school gets,it will never be enough.If everyone is serious about closing the school down lets get to work on combining our school with smaller schools ,aka Avon ,Spring Lake ,Sea Girt,Bradley Beach, etc. I know we are the step child and SL, SG,& Avon are above us so it’s hard to combine when no one wants Belmar except if we are taking their junk and paying for it. It’s ironic how many residents owned summer rentals in Belmar and lived in nicer communities. Always remember to throw your trash our way ,we are happy to get the crumbs.
#5- My bet is a %15 increase. Cut the spending now. Lay off if need be. Charge South Belmar more for the police services. DO SOMETHING to alleviate the waste. Vote them out.
The floor boards held the secrets.
#7- My husband and I both served on the Board of Education here in Belmar. He served many more years than I. During our years of service the schools you mentioned were those that came under discussion for possibly merging with Belmar School. Also considered was West Belmar School, which is part of the Wall Twp. School District. Obviously, this never happened.
The old idea of “brick and mortar” school[s] are long obsolete. It’s better now to shut down BES while the final dissolution of the remaining parasitical schools proceeds. I know that idea is not popular to many reactionaries but progress cannot be held at bay forever.
the school was shelter for Belmar residents during Hurricane Gloria.
Dilberger’s idea that the school is obsolete only started after he was caught posting a racist rant in The Coast Star under the alias name Nathan Bedford Forrest, Imperial Wizard of the KKK, 1861 – 1865. Before that, he’d come to school board meetings with notes on how to educated the boys – let them be outside was the most important point (good idea). Girls however, well, they didn’t make it into the equation.
During Black History month Dilberger was always irate and would speak to the board about what a terrible man Dr. Martin Luther King was and how the school is putting wrong ideas in the kids heads.
Not sure if there is any connection, but he abruptly stopped coming to meetings when a Coast Star reader alerted the paper and it was printed that Dilberger fooled them with his opinion piece under the KKK name. The Coast Star detected that “Nathan Bedford Forrest” was actually Dilberger.
#13 Leave Tom alone
#14 – Thanks much
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#13 – Yeah, I remember that, I signed a letter Nathan Bedford Forrest. He was, as you say, The first grand wizard of the KKK. But he was also an unbelievable man. I’ve heard him described as a “Force of Nature.” He was, in my opinion one of the top 4-5 commanders of the Civil War/War of Northern Agression. Right there with Grant, Lee, Sherman and Jackson. Also sir, he was the only general on either side who entered the war as a Pvt. and finished the war as a Lt. Gen. It is said he killed over twenty enemy soldier in hand to hand combat. That’s something for a Gen. officer. also, for many years, his tactics were taught at West Point. Tank Gen’s. Patton and Rommel studied his tactics as well. Sir, you should look up the Reconstruction period that gave birth to the Klan. You might see things a bit differently if you did. I know though that that will happen when donkeys fly (after all, ignorance is bliss as they say).
MLK – The less said about the poor man the better.
BES, School Board – A truly sadsack collection of lowly people.
Possibly phasing out grades 7-8 would be helpful to start with. Those students could be hooked up to a online instructor. This way we’d save money all around. Also, possibly students could decide to continue with education or not past 8th grade (they could always get a GED if they wanted). Those are just a couple of suggestions.
Tom Dilberger, are you actually that ignorant, or is it all for show? Do you have children? If so, did you raise them to be as nasty and closed minded as you are?
Belmar Elementary School is a wonderful place of learnings. Curriculum as mandated by the state is carried out in the form of daily lessons. Teachers are dedicated. I like this school for my children. Staff is always available to parents as needed.
#17 – To answer your questions in order – yes, yes, that’s an impossibility.
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#18 – Only one clarification to following phrase you use – “wonderful place of learnings.” The children are being indoctrinated – not taught.
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Forget me. Try to think in some depth. Don’t just accept illusions at face value. You will show immense love of your children that way.
I think Belmar Elementary School is great. I love my children dearly, and I know this school is a perfect place of learning. Other parents think as Ido. I’m involved in the education field from a different school district. I would certainly know if the school didn’t meet the academic needs of my children, as I educate children on a daily basis. Staff is excellent, supportive and easily approachable. My children are number 1,in my life . To suggest otherwise is so wrong. I certainly will forget you! Excellent School = successful lives for students. From what I hear, Belmar students are successful as they move on in life.
#20 – I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings. I’m sure you love you children in your own way. It’s very hard making myself understood by people who’ve been brought up in the new manner of living and don’t understand their surroundings and therefore of course are not able to teach the children what they need to know in the outside world. Obviously, the things I say must sound deranged to such people.
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Having said that, I stand by what I said. Above all, children should be taught to question all things. Even the teachers these days are mostly brought up in the new manner of living and their understanding that they’re being used to not teach children, but to propagandize them to concepts that were never taught before in history and to believe concepts that will result in their being hurt multiple times through their lives.
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Think things through #20. It is imperative to think in depth for your child’s sake. Life is serious and if you make certain mistakes, many times, it’s impossible to correct them in time before disaster hits.
#20 – test scores don’t lie but you can to yourself.
I can hear you now on the phone with CBA, the MCVSD schools, or RBC.
“Yes I know they didn’t pass the entrance exams but in my heart I know they are really smart. That doesn’t count? Really? Well you are wrong. My children are #1 in my life so you have to let them in. Oh you don’t? They have to pass the test? Who makes these rules? He got a A in math but failed the math entrance exam,.. yes but maybe the exam is wrong? oh, others passed it? Must be some fluke in the universe.”
“Hello (insert college name here), I understand my child didn’t do well on the SAT’s but I really care for them and I would know if a school didn’t meet the academic needs of my children so I’m going to need you to let them in. Well that’s not fair, some kids can’t take tests. He had a 3.5 GPA, maybe the SAT test is wrong? Yes he took it 3 times, but he is really smart. I’m involved in the education field I would know…. Still no? Not fair!”
#21 Depth???? You’re just a man who is afraid all the time. You see a world that doesn’t comport with your single minded beliefs. It manifests itself in nonsense and double talk and, yes, racism.
#22- Your ignorance is kinda cute. My kid went to BES then to RBR. No calls made. No begging involved. Lot’s of kids go there from BES. But don’t let facts get in the way of your moronic, ill informed rants. They’re what make you, you.
#23-I so agree with you on all points. I know of Belmar School students who passed the entrance exams at specialized high schools as well as RBR. Isn’t it presumptuous, #21,to state our students don’t pass the SAT’s? Many students from Belmar Elementary get into good colleges.
Mr. Dilberger-What mistakes am I making? My husband and I both work, children are doing well at school and every other way. We are a happy,well-adjusted family. We love each other and enjoy many happy activities together, especially in the summer. We also have involved grandparents. What mistakes?
Also-#23-proof of our school is seen in the he ongoing success of our students. They go to high school, many to college, and then on to good jobs. How about jobs in education, medicine, technology, the trades, and retail? Let’s not contine to put down our school and our children. Why would you assume ( you know what they say about assume) that all is so bleak for the students who attend Belmar School, Mr. D. And the test analyzer, #22? And guess what there was no evidence of pulling strings . Students achieved on their own merit.
My kids did great after leaving Belmar School. Good foundation.
BES is a great school for the basics.
Love Belmar School.
Mr. Dilberger-You support the klu klutz klan? The Grand Wizard-you think he’s great? I don’t find anything that verifies your ideas about the person -the grand wizard-who is so great? You must understand the country is against everything he stands for. Why are you against everything AMerican?
“Above all children should be taught to question all things”….and in the same breath he wants us to go back to the old ways. They just don’t know better because of this new manner of living…..this new manner created by his generation and his generation’s children (brought up by….you guessed it his generation).
“The children are beyond your command. Get out of the way if you can’t lend a hand”
What critics of the Belmar School (those who cite poor test scores) you are forgetting how important parental support and influence are to each and every student. You are very short-sighted-when you focus only test scores. Our students have gone on to prestigious colleges.
1959 – Children At Play In New York City Slums 220639-08 | Footage …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaiPbymbyko
In so many ways, those children in the slums of NYC in this film were so much richer than these poor children today – Lord help these children. I was one of those children 10 yrs. before 1959, playing all those games. Yeah, we were poor, but we didn’t know it. Watch this. Look at the innovation/Imagination (everything laying around had possibilities of being a toy) and constant motion of those children. Very interesting watching these children against the poor sluggish children you see today, bored, shuffling along/or sitting looking dully at their phone gadgets.
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I was wondering when the slum children footage would come up….it came right on time. Yes, the phones are a real problem, but I see so many kids also having lots of fun. I was just at a grocery store on Memorial Drive in Asbury and the kids were laughing and singing to the songs on the radio. Kids are doing parkour all over town – causing folks to complain at council meetings (even throwing a football on the beach is a big problem according to people).
My point is that you see what you want to see.
15-You extol the virtues of the Imperial Wizard of the KKK? You aren’t serious, are you? A force of nature? Try a force of hatred . A better fit for the Imperial Wizard .
Kids today are not sluggish . They play sports, do charity work, volunteer, and many find summer jobs when they turn 14. They swim and enjoy the beach . Have you been to the beachfront early in the morning? The beach squad ( beach clean-up) is made up of young teenagers. High school students get credit for doing community service. More than ever young people are stimulated by the world around them. I know of teenage boys who start their own lawn-mowing business. Nothing sluggish about our kids.
#32 – Interesting that you saw “kids” in a store. About the throwing a football on the beach, they’re not talking about kids throwing a ball. They’re talking about full grown men possibly running over small children (interesting that would even have to be explained). Keep watching the video. Watch especially the concentration of the children. What you see is learning in the form of those street games. I know you have a hard time with something like that. It’s so removed fro what you ever could even conceive. Let me really blow your mind. women used to leave their babies outside stores in carriages while they shopped. After they came out, they’d put their purchases in the baby carriage and walk home. Yep, they really did that.
#33 – Interesting that you would denigrate such a man. You who hides behind an assumed name each time they post – a true snake in the grass. Put your name up there like a man.
#34 – Look at the video sir/madam. These children today can’t come near those small children you see in that video. As to their volunteering, yes, but most of the time they’re forced. When there is no force, you don’t see them. Of course, there are those who don’t have to be forced and I acknowledge that, but in the main, they would never actually volunteer themselves from what I’ve seen. As far as young people being stimulated by the world around them, wouldn’t they have to be actually outdoors for this stimulation to occur?
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One last thing. I started this about the children of alien intruders stealing our tax money through their attendance at BES and right away all of you got upset that I was criticizing our children which says a lot in itself. I think when you get right down to it, you all know inside our children are not doing well. That explains your extreme defenses of them in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Mr Dilberger, you are a gem. Don’t ever change. Your ability to stay inside your own manufactured reality is astounding. To openly celebrate a man that lead an organization of hooded cowards that murdered hundreds (maybe thousands)of men women and children because they had different skin color, is really impressive.
By the way I just want to point out that you insulted a guy for hiding behind a false identity when he was denigrating a man that started an organization who’s members made hoods to hide their identity. Again, ignoring that kind of overwhelming irony-impressive.
Yessir- everything was better in the 50s. Moms stayed home with the kids, dads drank whiskey, smoked cigars, and screwed their secretaries at the office.Kids played outside and sure maybe some were molested by priests or died from diseases easily treated today but man, it was a magical time. We are all doomed today but at least we have you keeping hold of the social fabric. Pointing out all of our faults. Thank you good sir, you are a true American hero.
Lastly, may I recommend that you somehow spread your wisdom to a larger audience. Perhaps a book or maybe even a spoken word record album. I just think that your insight and social commentary is wasted on these people. Anyway, food for thought
Men throwing footballs, running to catch footballs, swinging hockey sticks, lacrosse sticks or rackets and kicking soccer balls on a crowded beach should not be allowed.
Ladies and Gentlemen, You have Some interesting thoughts on Gen. NBF. But as usual, un-informed. Not based on any knowledge in depth of the man or his times. You must understand men are multi-layered. No man is all good, or all bad in my opinion. There’s some good in the worst of men and some bad in the best. You can’t comprehend people being that way. Mainly because of your manner of living, seldom going about. Watching far too much TV, having little to no interest in your surroundings, etc. That is a big reason why you’re all so susceptible to the constant barrage of propaganda leveled at you each day. The most interesting thing about all this to me is when I was a boy, my parents were very unhappy with me because of my being such a terrible student and now that I’m an old man people are very unhappy with me because I did start reading and they don’t like what I’ve learned and of course, much more, they don’t like me saying what I’ve learned. But even more learning than I ever got from any book, I got from experiencing things first hand outdoors working with all sorts of men doing work, most sensible people didn’t want to do. I love those men.
Sandra – I agree. That needs to stop. I wanted to make a point to Mr. Dilberger who thinks all people are wimps today.
Tom Dilberger – I know women left their kids outside of stores. My Mom’s from Brooklyn, Dad’s from Bayonne. I have lived in Europe (where they still do that) and NYC’s alphabet city. I’ve seen different cultures and am interested in the past. Please don’t assume you know me or what I know or experience. Take Jazz for example – you stated that no one under your age knows about it when you posted a song for Claire a while back. You have no idea how much I know about and love jazz – from it’s early days till now. I also love everything from the American Songbook and listen to that stuff as much as I listen to all kids of classic and indie rock, punk, and so much more. Being interested in today’s music and culture automatically makes you interested in the past – because you see and hear the connection, the origin. You are so incredibly insulting to assume you know me or anyone. Why you think we parents aren’t completely aware of and frightened of the fast paced changes in our society – like smart phones and social media – is telling. You can’t even look into someone’s eye and get to know them – would rather assume we are all the same….and you don’t want to help. Your knowledge of the past could be helpful but kids need inspiration so it’s not gonna happen with your attitude. And ironically, your attitude is typical of an old man. It’s not a new manner of living when it comes to you and your opinions about people today.
21-Please explain what disaster might occur . What mistakes? Do you mean with Our families? Our children ? I feel secure about my family .
#39 Amen.
Tom, no one is mad at you because you read and observe. Your assumption that you are the only person that reads and observes is what makes people mad. You’re not.
You put forth your opinion and try to package it as fact. It’s not. It’s your opinion. You’re entitled to have an opinion but you’re not entitled to pretend that it’s fact. You and I may read the same exact book or witness the same exact occurrence and both come away with a different opinion about it. Opinion is formed through the accumulation of life experiences. If either of us attempts to present our opinion as fact, we are being dishonest. That’s not to say that there are no such thing as facts. Facts are facts. But opinion is a personal decision about the meaning of the analysis of facts.
Hope that helps.
Mr. D. You are scolding someone who used a hidden identity on this blog?? You, who signed the Name of the imperial wizard of the Kkk in Coast Star? Doesn’t seem right. You hid behind a fake identity-one that brings fear to the hearts of all law-abiding citizens. To honor the imperial wizard goes against everything we stand for as Americans.
….so to old men reading this blog I say this: don’t let Dilberger give you a bad name. Many people generalize – not to the extent he does of course – but my old man reference is an example of a generalization that he keeps alive and well.
#42 – “fear to the hearts of all law-abiding citizens”
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gett’a grip on yourself…
Mr Dilberger-who is going overboard ? You are criticizing a person for pointing out that the youth of today are ambitious, involved, and caring-not sluggish, as you claim . This commenter gave specific, factual details-indisputable. You, however, Want to discredit young people. You are working as hard to tarnish them as the individual, you claim is supporting them.rightfully so.Today’s youth are good people. I’m going to join in the discussion by citing Specific examples of the good works of our responsible, involved teens and young adults.
By the way, my thinking is the world is certainly the outdoors. But world includes interior locations and people. Children should be outdoors, definitely, but much can be learned of the world indoors as well. The word world is a broad term.
To add to the list of good works-teens babysit and are also involved with church activities such as choir and helping with CCD classes.
For the most part, you’re all baying at the moon. Anyone with an ounce of sense knows a very large percentage of these children, teenagers and young adults are at the very least, disabled, intellectually, physically and emotionally. It does them a grave disservice to carry on as if this is not the case. The proof of what I say is your hysterical reactions to my thoughts. As if you’re trying to turn back a tide with hysterics alone.
#46-hysterics? What an absurd reaction. At least the individuals who support young people use facts. You use generalizations with no back up statements. Sluggish-disabled-hysterical, derogatory words about any and all connected to education.
No examples from 46 to back up his claims.
Another example of how great young people are-they help to distribute food to needy people through local churches.
You know this because you’ve worked with these kids?
Are you a father Mr. Dilberger?
Hysterical is described as fits of laughter or crying, 46. Would have to be visible. Wrong use of a word. Maybe the word disagreeable would have been a better choice.
I am a grandmother of young adults. They have always shown great promise and ambition . They help me with chores and shopping. I am thankful for them.
Mr Dilberger. Again, try to grasp this (I know it’s hard for you)- You are stating opinion. That’s all. You seem to have a hard time differentiating between opinion and fact. Also between hysterics and simple disagreement.
Please don’t be afraid (the world can be scary for someone like you) You can have your opinions, no one will take them from you. You’ll see you’ll get less flack if you start all of your posts with the phrase, “in my opinion”. Give it a try. It may also help with your difficulty in distinguishing your particular world view from facts. I hope this helps.
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