Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 12:23 pm|Permalink
Eugene R Creamer wrote:
Although socialized, Belmar water rates (including sewage treatment) are a bargain … most area towns send 2 bills
Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 12:42 pm|Permalink
Katrina wrote:
Great about debate.
As far as water there were 3 public meetings in January with town auditor and CFO with open public dialogue etc. it’s no surprise and as Mr Creamer says compared to other towns, we are relatively ok. Of course no one wants to pay more, whether taxes, water, groceries or gasoline’s etc. but let’s face it. Every thing goes up.
#5 Not everything goes up. Personal income tax rates went down. Why is it engrained in everyone’s brain that taxes have to go up. Technology has saved businesses plenty of money. Why can’t it work in government? Don’t compare us to someone else. Do our best to achieve tax saving. We live in NJ where the damn state raises everything except air.
Old man you may be correct that personal income tax went down for some people. Thats great too. It Has been my experience that the cost of life increases slowly and consistently. When I was a young girl I could go to a double feature movie with cartoons for twenty five cents! Those days are lllloooonnngggg gone.
My point about the water/sewer cost increase is that it was talked about and the need for increase was exposed over three public meetings. We all had the ability to ask questions and express concerns. And some times the people in charge have to make decisions that are unpopular but necessary. IM happy I’m not making those decisions in today’s political climate.
There have been very little infrastructure improvements over last 10 years to justify water rate increase. Our water/sewer lines look like Swiss cheese compared to those towns with higher rates. I don’t consider tan colored water and sewer lines that get saturated with ground water a bargain.
Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 10:50 pm|Permalink
Eugene and Katrina wrote:
Water rates increasing is different than the water assessment. $200 per year, per unit is alot of money that is being paid and that is IN ADDITION to the other increases.
I want to know if it is permanent or temporary.
#7 Federal income tax rates fell for plenty of people not some. Do you really think the people making decisions really care? Sorry they don’t . I’m taking my aspirins now.
SOOOOO correct Old Man. It’s engrained in people’s mind, by the politicians, that everything, ie taxes, have to go up. WRONG. Look at Lake Como, who we supply probably 75 percent of their services, and Spring Lake Heights who both have continually lowered their property taxes the past couple of years. Can someone please chime in and answer this one question? Why do we allow our leaders to raise our taxes 20% over two years, and yet we provide the majority of services to Lake Como, as they LOWER their taxes? I invite Tommie, Kinney and Gerry to all chime in. First one with a reas0nable answer gets my vote. INCREASE costs to Lake Como to a point where their tax rate increases are equal to ours. Seems fair to me.
Whoever wrote a post using using Eugene and Katrina as name, I’d appreciate it that you stop doing that. If you have a comment or question about something I write or comment about, have the dignity to say who you are. Or obviously you know me because I have never used Eugene’s name on this blog. So talk to me directly. People on this blog are constantly talking about transparency, the lack of it. Yet have no problem being opaque themselves.
If you have a question about the assessment call borough hall and ask.
If you have a question about that assessment call borough hall and ask.
I didnt mean for it come across as a post under their names, I meant the comment to address both Eugene and Katrina’s comments. My apologies if it came across as spoofing, not my intention.
The entire idea of a debate between these unfit candidates is ridiculous. Two are unfit because of inexperience and one is unfit due to her sex/nature. It doesn’t matter why they’re unfit though – unfit is unfit.
You are so wrong #18. We need to hear what each candidate has to say about what’s happening in this borough. How can we make an informed decision without hearing from them? That’s what should have happened in the last election. Not that crazy “invite us to your house & maybe we’ll come and talk to you” nonsense.
#19 I have a below average sized house. Can’t fit more than three people. Your house maybe? Whatever candidates say is BS. Never trust a politician. Waste of time. Look at the current council. Voting to get money to build a bridge to nowhere. Hiring a pt person for $83k/year.
#20 – That’s why we need to try again to vote in someone who will speak up against this tight-knit group of cronies. We can’t give up and let our town continue to decline. Saying it’s a “waste of time” is just letting them continue to do as they please. That sure is what they’re hoping for. Let’s keep trying – and hopefully start to get it right.
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A lot of complaints about ridiculous jumps in water bill pricing in the Belmar FB groups.
I wonder how quickly before this becomes a debate issue?
The jump in rates plus the assessment IS just crazy. And no one in charge can tell us if the assessment is temporary.
SOOOOOO glad this is happening!
Although socialized, Belmar water rates (including sewage treatment) are a bargain … most area towns send 2 bills
Great about debate.
As far as water there were 3 public meetings in January with town auditor and CFO with open public dialogue etc. it’s no surprise and as Mr Creamer says compared to other towns, we are relatively ok. Of course no one wants to pay more, whether taxes, water, groceries or gasoline’s etc. but let’s face it. Every thing goes up.
#5 Not everything goes up. Personal income tax rates went down. Why is it engrained in everyone’s brain that taxes have to go up. Technology has saved businesses plenty of money. Why can’t it work in government? Don’t compare us to someone else. Do our best to achieve tax saving. We live in NJ where the damn state raises everything except air.
Old man you may be correct that personal income tax went down for some people. Thats great too. It Has been my experience that the cost of life increases slowly and consistently. When I was a young girl I could go to a double feature movie with cartoons for twenty five cents! Those days are lllloooonnngggg gone.
My point about the water/sewer cost increase is that it was talked about and the need for increase was exposed over three public meetings. We all had the ability to ask questions and express concerns. And some times the people in charge have to make decisions that are unpopular but necessary. IM happy I’m not making those decisions in today’s political climate.
There have been very little infrastructure improvements over last 10 years to justify water rate increase. Our water/sewer lines look like Swiss cheese compared to those towns with higher rates. I don’t consider tan colored water and sewer lines that get saturated with ground water a bargain.
Water rates increasing is different than the water assessment. $200 per year, per unit is alot of money that is being paid and that is IN ADDITION to the other increases.
I want to know if it is permanent or temporary.
#7 Federal income tax rates fell for plenty of people not some. Do you really think the people making decisions really care? Sorry they don’t . I’m taking my aspirins now.
SOOOOO correct Old Man. It’s engrained in people’s mind, by the politicians, that everything, ie taxes, have to go up. WRONG. Look at Lake Como, who we supply probably 75 percent of their services, and Spring Lake Heights who both have continually lowered their property taxes the past couple of years. Can someone please chime in and answer this one question? Why do we allow our leaders to raise our taxes 20% over two years, and yet we provide the majority of services to Lake Como, as they LOWER their taxes? I invite Tommie, Kinney and Gerry to all chime in. First one with a reas0nable answer gets my vote. INCREASE costs to Lake Como to a point where their tax rate increases are equal to ours. Seems fair to me.
Whoever wrote a post using using Eugene and Katrina as name, I’d appreciate it that you stop doing that. If you have a comment or question about something I write or comment about, have the dignity to say who you are. Or obviously you know me because I have never used Eugene’s name on this blog. So talk to me directly. People on this blog are constantly talking about transparency, the lack of it. Yet have no problem being opaque themselves.
If you have a question about the assessment call borough hall and ask.
If you have a question about that assessment call borough hall and ask.
My apologies for letting that one get through. Guys, please do not send comments under other residents’ names.
I didnt mean for it come across as a post under their names, I meant the comment to address both Eugene and Katrina’s comments. My apologies if it came across as spoofing, not my intention.
14-I understood what you meant. Reading comprehension is an important skill.
It was me. Thanks for clarification. But as you can see, with out open communication things get jumbled.
The entire idea of a debate between these unfit candidates is ridiculous. Two are unfit because of inexperience and one is unfit due to her sex/nature. It doesn’t matter why they’re unfit though – unfit is unfit.
#17. I agree it’s going to be a below average interesting debate.
You are so wrong #18. We need to hear what each candidate has to say about what’s happening in this borough. How can we make an informed decision without hearing from them? That’s what should have happened in the last election. Not that crazy “invite us to your house & maybe we’ll come and talk to you” nonsense.
#19 I have a below average sized house. Can’t fit more than three people. Your house maybe? Whatever candidates say is BS. Never trust a politician. Waste of time. Look at the current council. Voting to get money to build a bridge to nowhere. Hiring a pt person for $83k/year.
#20 – That’s why we need to try again to vote in someone who will speak up against this tight-knit group of cronies. We can’t give up and let our town continue to decline. Saying it’s a “waste of time” is just letting them continue to do as they please. That sure is what they’re hoping for. Let’s keep trying – and hopefully start to get it right.
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