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Board Hearing This Week

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  1. Way too big! wrote:

    This project is ridiculously too big for any neighborhood. Kudos to the author of the ad for showing just how out of place this will look. I am hopeful (but not confident) that the zoning board will be mindful of the master plan and see this for what it is….greed!

    Monday, August 20, 2018 at 10:12 am | Permalink
  2. Anonymous wrote:

    Property for this condo deal is 100ft wide on 12th ave. by 140ft long on A street side. Picture is true to scale viewed from A street side. Condos are to have multi colored siding as pictured.

    Monday, August 20, 2018 at 11:55 am | Permalink
  3. guest wrote:

    #1 – Not too much larger from what is there now, is it?

    Monday, August 20, 2018 at 2:59 pm | Permalink
  4. Rules wrote:

    95% lot coverage is absurd.

    Monday, August 20, 2018 at 4:51 pm | Permalink
  5. Anonymous wrote:

    No to the condos! This building is ridiculously huge and garish.

    It will change the feel of the entire neighborhood.

    Monday, August 20, 2018 at 5:38 pm | Permalink
  6. OLD MAN wrote:

    #3 That damn building should not have been there there to begin with. Look what happened to Asbury….. It’s all about money. The dump there now will never be renovated and the owners know it. So sell the damn property and put up normal expensive housing.

    Monday, August 20, 2018 at 6:11 pm | Permalink
  7. Guest wrote:

    #6. What is there now is a dump. If I lived next to it I would welcome this project. Asbury appears to be doing ok. At least the section being developed. Bad comparison. How old are you? Were you here before the Belmar Inn was built? Probably not.

    Monday, August 20, 2018 at 8:35 pm | Permalink
  8. eugene r creamer wrote:

    in addition to the many Variances, the Zoning Board must also decide “Site Plan Approval”. (normally the purview of the Planning Board)

    with this application, the Zoning Board has the power to grant “Site Plan Approval” to the same extent and limitation as the Planning Board.

    the Planning Board would require submission of an Environmental Impact Statement … the Zoning Board should do the same.

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 2:10 am | Permalink
  9. OLD MAN wrote:

    #7 It is not a bad comparison. What does me being there before it was built have anything to do with it. It’s an eye sore …You don’t give a damn are probably in on the “scam”. People don’t want it. That’s what important. BTW I’m old enough to know a phony in you and young enough to know it’s residents first everybody else can wait in line. Our rights should not be infringed.

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 5:32 am | Permalink
  10. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    #7 Sir/Madam, I do know those Condos in Asbury. But I don’t think you can compare the condos in Asbury with this plan here. In Asbury they’re out towards the boardwalk apart from private homes. Here the plan is to put them right in the middle of a private neighborhood. What works in one place doesn’t in another.

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 5:58 am | Permalink
  11. Guest wrote:

    If the developer is willing to scale back a little to achieve a larger setback then this could be a great addition to the town. It would certainly be way better than what is currently there. I agree that we don’t want high rises all over the place, but this proposal is not a high rise. All development isn’t bad development. Instead of coming out with pitch forks residents should come out with feasible ideas on how to responsibly develop this property. The current Belmar Inn is an embarrassment.

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 7:03 am | Permalink
  12. ALL TRUMPED UP wrote:

    Imagine a Belmar where each lot is 95% covered. This would be devastating to the environment, polluted overflowing lakes, and streets. On top of that a floor ratio of 265%. Our population would rival that of Lakewood’s, in a square mile town. The taxing effects on our services, water, police, fire, parking availability would be horrendous and unsustainable. The property is only worth what the present zoning laws warrant. “They paved paradise, and put up a parking lot”. G-R-E-E-D at your expense.

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 7:04 am | Permalink
  13. Summer Timer wrote:

    Norwood Inn was demolished and they are building single family homes… That property is most likely of similar value considering it is in Avon… Why do single family homes work for that development project??? See link….

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 8:01 am | Permalink
  14. Guest wrote:

    I agree single family homes is the ideal solution.

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 8:25 am | Permalink
  15. Good for belmar wrote:

    For one, mr blooms property is about 95 percent covered as well, the author of this ridiculous ad. The developer continues to attempt to work with the neighbors to rid the neighbor hood of the animal house type properties so they have a more family friendly street. This blog continues to have everyone say single family homes, which won’t work on this property, compromise is a two way street. Nothing being said is ever constructive, everyone should try to work together not with pitch forks.

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 10:47 am | Permalink
  16. Anonymous wrote:

    58 additional units were added to that structure within the last 20 years. Asbestos all over 0 remediation required to protect homeowners. 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, dump that never got off the ground. Why trust the zoning board, with broad planning board responsibility now?

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 11:09 am | Permalink
  17. Way too big! wrote:

    In response to #15, I really don’t think anyone objects to something other than the Belmar Inn being on that lot. The objections are that this project is just WAY TOO BIG. The developer compromised? How? By reducing the height over what it initially proposed? It’s still too high. By suggesting getting rid of the bump out into the street? That bump out was ridiculous. That bump out would help with allowing the many cars coming in and out of the garage (can you imagine…a garage!) to be able to see better as the regular flow of traffic goes up and down 12th Avenue. And let’s be serious, this will not make this a more family friendly street. These units are not big enough for families.

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 11:21 am | Permalink
  18. ALL TRUMPED UP wrote:

    #15- Dear NOT Good for Belmar, give me ONE good reason why single family homes wont work on this property, OTHER than the over-inflated value some people (builders,present owner, ….) put on this location. It’s called GREED. You can not, and will not, try to inflate the value of your property by bending the zoning rules. Period. And if it’s allowed here….. there goes the neighborhood and every other person that comes before the board will use the excuse that their property value can only be support by over building on their lot. The GREED of these people will destroy the quaintness of a Borough.

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 11:31 am | Permalink
  19. Way too big! wrote:

    And, I personally don’t see the applicant wanting to work together with anyone. His bully tactics are offensive. Holding a picture of the home of Mr. Bloom on his belly when Mr. Bloom was speaking was offensive. His responses to those that get up and speak are offensive. His own architect stated that her mandate was to design this building with 24 units. It’s just WAY TOO BIG!

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 11:44 am | Permalink
  20. Anonymous wrote:

    The bottom line,how much money can the future investors in this project make. You don’t really think they care about the neighborhood do you. Similar project between 14th and 15th. Lots of rumors flying around about the White House property on 5th. As the flyers state,your street could be next.

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 12:56 pm | Permalink
  21. Way too big! wrote:

    And #15, I don’t need to speak for Mr. Bloom, but if his lot has 95% coverage for him to improve his SINGLE FAMILY HOME, perhaps it is due to the fact that the lot is so small and he actually had HARDSHIP. There is absolutely no hardship with this application. The developer could build within a smaller footprint, even if he doesn’t want to build single family homes (as he wants to make as much of a profit as he can). This developer is a land use lawyer, He knows. I’m not saying that he has not done good things for Belmar. He has. But it doesn’t mean that this is the way that Belmar has to pay him back. All we can hope for is that the Zoning Board has the best interest of ALL of Belmar in mind when it reviews this WAY TOO BIG project against it’s master plan. Too much coverage, not enough parking, way too high, way too many variances needed. WAY TOO BIG!

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 2:11 pm | Permalink
  22. Good For Belmar wrote:

    #13 Summertime, I did the research on your suggestion very simple answer of why that doesnt work in belmar versus the Norwood Inn Avon property, the Norwood Inn lot size is 150 x 140, they were able to sub divide into three buildable lots, to be 50 x 140; The lot size if you look it up for the Belmar Inn property is 100 x 140, so it wouldnt be able to be cut into three pieces of single family homes and work. But interesting food for thought and fact: Avon assessed that property for 1,991,000 in 2018, the purchaser on May 15, 2018 paid 3,388,000 for the property. Belmar’s tax assessor has the Belmar Inn property assessed value for the land and building at 2,206,700, this does not account for the value of the rooming house license it holds; And if you look at the homes in Avon they seem to sell for a higher value then single family homes in Belmar. But you are really trying to compare apples to oranges because the lot sizes of these two different projects are off by ALOT, literally a whole additional lot. If you do not believe me you can easily fact check my statements with Monmouth County Clerks property records and tax info, because thats where I found the real information.

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 2:24 pm | Permalink
  23. Good for Belmar wrote:

    #17—- I believe the building was taken down in height by an entire floor, then additional feet on the remaining, which brings the entire building down to almost the height of the current structure, but what it does add is parking where currently there are zero spots at the Belmar Inn. The units are big enough for families dont be ridiculous. But a new building will be more efficient then the current one and have a home owners association to keep up with the up keep of the property. Perfect for that retired couple who are snow bunnies and spend a winter in florida, their property is maintained while they are gone. I for one was exacted at the thought of something on the market in Belmar like this, in my mid 30’s and working a full time job that takes up 60 to 70 hours a week of my time it would be nice to have a new place near the beach where there would be no big construction project for me to have to fix up. Renting isnt for everyone, either are single family homes.

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 2:35 pm | Permalink
  24. GOOD For Belmar wrote:

    #18- All Trumped Up—- I could give you a list of reasons why single family homes would not work, but even at my young age I know that some people its not worth the explanation because you only see and hear things the way you want them to be not how things actually are. From reading your comments on many of these blog postings your negative about almost everything and no one is going to change your closed mind unfortunately. But for everyone else, the good things that development brings to even a small community is business in town by attracting people to come in to town, not just new residents, but from workers on the job sites who work on the projects and stop at the local deli for lunch, at the diner for coffee in the morning (did I mention all year round), also, more residents bring money to our local restaurants, shops, salons, etc., having people in town to support our local businesses also keeps the town quaint. We take for granted that although the businesses may appear booming in the summer time there are some summers that are colder, rain every weekend and could put a small mom and pop business under, and then on top winter time is a long season. Right now those “quaint” shoppes also struggle because of the amazons, targets, walmarts, etc., I mean if a giant like Toys R Us/Babies R Us cant make it can you imagine their struggles. A project like this would also bring more tax revenue to the town but that should go without saying and more revenue then two single family homes. These are just some positives of things to consider when you form an opinion. There are alot more positives to redevelopment in a small community that I have been reading about. I attempted to get a group together for positive constructive ways to support the community but I did not get much feed back from people on this blog but I did get some support from others in the community who want to see good things for belmar.

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 2:57 pm | Permalink
  25. Anonymous wrote:

    #21— I dont believe he asked for Belmar to pay him back. And guess what since your so smart, do you think there is no risk involved, cost of building, demo costs, professional costs, application fees, and the list goes on. You have to hope that by the time your project is being developed the market does not crash, which is a risk in itself, you can easily make no money, alittle money or alot of money but since know one will truly know what it will be if and when complete, you only know approximately the debt your taking on and hoping that you built in alittle buffer that on the worst day you would breakeven instead of bankrupt. And the fact of the matter is it takes alot of money and time to get a project even this far. Any property owner in Belmar should encourage investment in Belmar, it will keep their property values up as well, if people want to come to Belmar others will to and its not a bad thing. The developer is a land use attorney, he does know alot maybe people should give him a chance to speak and present the entire project before attacking him, his staff, the professionals ,etc. Some of the concerns and questions (if asked politely) could be addressed and there are real educated answers and solutions for what you fear potential problems could be and there are safe guards put in place and this was a thought out plan not some half ass thing thrown together. If everyone showed each other respect we could get to the actual merits and real questions.

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 3:23 pm | Permalink
  26. Guest wrote:

    You’re all correct, so just open the Belmar Inn back up.

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 7:07 pm | Permalink
  27. Summer Timer wrote:

    #22…. That is a very poor explanation…. An assessed value is the valuation placed on a property by a public tax assessor for purposes of taxation. Fair Market Value on the other hand is the agreed upon price between a willing and informed buyer and seller under usual and ordinary circumstances. There is no way the Belmar property is more valuable than the Avon one, in a fair market… I would much rather have a home on Norwood Inn property, as it is a much nicer neighborhood…

    Tuesday, August 21, 2018 at 11:00 pm | Permalink
  28. GOOD FOR BELMAR wrote:

    #27- thats a poor explanation, Really? Your comparing two different lot sizes and making them sound identical in the process so people think it should be able to be done. Im not the tax assessor in either town Im just simply giving the facts as they are.

    Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 9:26 am | Permalink
  29. eugene r creamer wrote:

    for the past 8 years Belmar elected officials encouraged consumption of liquor …. creating a magnet for people with drinking issues …. do the residents of Belmar benefit from this booze economy? …. then, some responsibility to take care of the drunks is due.
    does the Belmar Inn serve a societal need by providing a place to sleep-it-off instead of DWI?

    Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 11:39 am | Permalink
  30. You paid for IT wrote:

    Mr.Creamer, so glad you’re feeling well enough to continue this commentary. Unfortunately the Belmar Inn was well known as Belmar’s Drug and Drunk Tankfor more than 30 years. Far surpassing the Mayfair’s undesirable reputation.

    Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 12:24 pm | Permalink
  31. Summer Timer wrote:

    #28… Your so called facts are not applicable to the sale price of the 12th ave property… It appears the developer did not negotiate a deal that is conducive to residential development… No variances for YOU…

    Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

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