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COMO VOTES “NO”

COMO VOTERS REJECT TAX INCREASE THAT WOULD HAVE SAVED LCPD

BELMAR TO BE STUCK WITH POLICING ITS NEIGHBOR

IS IT WORTH IT?

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CAN WE VOTE TOO?

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29 Comments

  1. Anonymous wrote:

    Fools !
    In both towns !

    Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 9:23 pm | Permalink
  2. Bill Straus wrote:

    I feel bad for the officers that will lose their jobs. As for the residents they get exactly what they vote for. But will they learn anything and vote GRIP in Nov.

    Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 9:34 pm | Permalink
  3. belmarguy wrote:

    Man, that sucks.. Bring on the lawsuits…

    Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 10:38 pm | Permalink
  4. 19 wrote:

    Let’s see next I’m guessing the will waive the civil service so that Matt can hire his guys , and the chief doesn’t have to test for the position. This is going to be a nail in the Belmar coffin

    Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 6:19 am | Permalink
  5. Savings wrote:

    There are home developments in Monmouth county that are larger than Lake Como. 2.4 million to patrol a 1/4 mile is insane.

    Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 6:59 am | Permalink
  6. ALLTRUMPEDUP wrote:

    Vote them out. One by one, two by two in Nov.
    Adios Matt the Magician.

    Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 7:07 am | Permalink
  7. OLD MAN wrote:

    The voters have spoken. Can’t afford these over priced public employees. Sorry for those cops. I’m sure they are all hard working individuals.

    Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 7:55 am | Permalink
  8. LKComoguy wrote:

    #5 & #7 You two can join the three blind mice squad to. #5 $2.4 million you really believe that, I have a bridge to sell you. Its going to cost Lake Como more to get rid of the police than it would have cost to keep them. After paying them for all their vacation and sick time they accumulated and after The Borough of Lake Como has to pay 100% of each officers unemployment. Everyone on here should do their research. Go onto Google and type in “Gov.Whitman gives towns a pass on paying into the police pension”. It was towns like Lake Como who jumped on this for ten years not paying into the pension system. Not paying they were advised to put that money aside for when that back pay is called on. They didn’t and they just sat back and said look at us we aren’t raising taxes. Instead the just kept raiding the surplus. This whole situation was created the former mayor and councils and the Borough Administrator who should also lose her job.

    Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 8:21 am | Permalink
  9. Ms. Sarcastic wrote:

    They should have declared Bankruptcy like Atlantic City and let the state run their mess NOT Belmar.

    Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 9:14 am | Permalink
  10. admin wrote:

    Maybe we should police AC too.

    Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 9:15 am | Permalink
  11. A Voter 2 wrote:

    #10 That will happen as soon as D’Jais gets slot machines.

    Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 11:02 am | Permalink
  12. LakeComoDude wrote:

    Couldn’t be happier. We’ve been overpaying these glorified meter maids for YEARS! Kick them to the curb. Lake Como was literally throwing MILLIONS of dollars in the garbage each year. Now Belmar gets $900k a year just to patrol a couple extra blocks. This is a huge win for both towns.

    Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 12:12 pm | Permalink
  13. OLD MAN wrote:

    #8 You don’t make any sense. The town can’t afford them ..Ok now that you understand that I’ll explain unemployment. The town will pay until they get a job. Guess what they will get jobs. Better get one after 6 months. Yes it is $2.4 million. Payroll plus payroll taxes ,insurance ,gas, cars, other related expenses. Now take two aspirins and get a good nights sleep

    Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 4:18 pm | Permalink
  14. 19 wrote:

    Sad day for Belmar , I can only imagine what is going to happen , between footing the bill on the pavilions , not being able to pay all the specials thought the beach utility , bigger bars on every block Harmon lawsuit , some is going to have to pay. No offense Lake Como but I didn’t buy in lake Como why would I want your problems on to of 47 million of debt. Sad day and Matt and cargo shorts will be gone before it hits.

    Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 6:23 pm | Permalink
  15. Lkcomoguy wrote:

    #13 like I said do your research. This thing called a computer is great, try going on Google and look up Lake Como adopted 2016 budget. Right there in print police budget 1,290,000 and that’s including one officer that left so it’s actually lower. So take some nyquil and get over yourself.

    Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 6:33 pm | Permalink
  16. Anonymous wrote:

    What happens when Belmar decides to hire 10 or 20 more cops ? 25% of entire Belmar police budget paid for by Lake Como. Get ready LC ! You will now find out first hand what Doherty economics is all about.

    Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 6:48 pm | Permalink
  17. BEN REAL wrote:

    Old Man: Belmar can not afford to police them either with $900,000.00 It may seem like a lot but not when we have to hire at least 5 additional officers, buy more vehicles, more pensions, and overtime. Our current officers are going to want a pay increase because they are patrolling a bigger area. And because we now have a bigger department, it will mean there will be more higher ranks which means bigger salaries and then we will need to build them a bigger police station…

    Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 8:36 pm | Permalink
  18. Aegon wrote:

    Can’t we get a law enforcement Grant to buy the new (Sandy replaced) police equipment?

    What a fiscal can of worms this policy is opening.

    Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 8:49 pm | Permalink
  19. Savings wrote:

    A great day for taxpayers to stand up to union bullies, pushing unaffordable pay, pensions and benefits.

    Wednesday, April 20, 2016 at 8:50 pm | Permalink
  20. OLD MAN wrote:

    #15 Guess you are drinking the cool aide also. Are the pension payment in that number? Budget vs. actual are different. #17 Maybe two more cars maybe three more cops. Don’t need higher ranks. It’s a small town. Maybe hire private company to patrol and police. Oh no that would be bad. The mayor would loose all his supporters. I think I’m going to open up a new company to service small town with a police force. Yes I could do it for much less money.

    Thursday, April 21, 2016 at 11:39 am | Permalink
  21. Lkcomoguy wrote:

    #20 I am aware about the pension payments and everything else. But you think a Police Department who’s salaries are under 1.2 million right this second would be equal 2.4 million with pension and healthcare, you need to go back to school. Again this computer age stuff is great. Everything is at your fingertips. Do your research, ignorance is no defense for being misinformed.

    Thursday, April 21, 2016 at 4:51 pm | Permalink
  22. OLD MAN wrote:

    #21 Benefits =40%. That makes it $1.7 million add building, cars, gas , liability ,Ins, training. It is possible to get to $2.4 million. No need to go back to school. I all ready have more college degrees than a thermometer. What do you do/did for a living? Probably nothing

    Friday, April 22, 2016 at 7:53 am | Permalink
  23. anon wrote:

    #22 – Agreed.

    #21 – You’re looking at just the single line item for “salary” on the budget. Read a little further! There’s much more to the police department than “salary”. And let’s just get real for a second. Over $1.2 million for 10 salaries?? That’s an average of $120k a piece! For writing parking tickets?!? That’s an insult to the tax payers! Throw them all out!

    Friday, April 22, 2016 at 8:22 am | Permalink
  24. joe goofinoff wrote:

    Well, this Lake Como police situation should be helpful to us Belmar citizens. While we all recognize we should have a police dept., that dept. should be paid appropriately to the job. The job of policemen in Belmar bears little resemblance to that of a big city patrolman. This should be factored into all negotiations with our Dept. We have no use here for “detectives.” There should only be patrolmen and one chief. Rank would come with time on the job . A patrolmen with two years service would outrank a patrolmen with less time on the job. Of course, there would be small cost of living adjustments due to years of service. But the insane base pay and benefits we see now would be done away with. We should do this incrementally with new hires. Any man coming on the force from a certain date onwards would make a significantly reduced pay/benefit scale. This way, we can bring this under control before our financial situation gets completely out of control. There is no time to waste. Now is the time to start.

    Friday, April 22, 2016 at 3:25 pm | Permalink
  25. ALLTRUMPEDUP wrote:

    Joe, do your homework. The adding of steps to their salary guides and the freezing of raises and steps has been going on for years.
    The police and other unions now pay for their medical. That along with 1.5% raises and paying 10% into their pension system is called negotiations. The issues with the pensions date back to Gov. Whitman and continue today as Governors fail to keep up with their promises. Don’t blame the workers’, blame the system created by those in power.

    Friday, April 22, 2016 at 4:04 pm | Permalink
  26. joe goofinoff wrote:

    It’s all gone far beyond what you’re talking about. We need drastic changed downward on these salaries and benefits and we need change ASAP. Not over a long period of time. I presented a reasonable answer on my last post. Another alternative is reducing the package of the existing officers. I understand our force is looking at 4-5 new officers to take over the new physical limits of their patrol area. Well, those new officers should be hired on the new reduced package, I’d say maybe start at 35K plus reduced benefit package. That should give us some immediate help.

    Friday, April 22, 2016 at 4:27 pm | Permalink
  27. OLD MAN wrote:

    #25 Police pay for PART of their medical……………A very small part

    Friday, April 22, 2016 at 6:21 pm | Permalink
  28. ALLTRUMPEDUP wrote:

    #27- Google Chapter 78. I don’t consider %32 as a small part.

    Friday, April 22, 2016 at 8:30 pm | Permalink
  29. Lkcomoguy wrote:

    Police pay 35% for healthcare.

    Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 8:57 am | Permalink

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