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55 Comments
It is my understanding that Municipal governments must follow the State of NJ Constitution which contains ethics. Another waste of the court’s time and money and another embarrassment for the Mayor and Council. Well done Ladies and Gentlemen.
Integrity always TRUMPS tyranny. Thank you. Nobody cares as much for the residents of Belmar than those brave souls who are a cut above, The Petitioners!
Great job by Ken Pringle and the rest of the petitioners. Belmar’s pay to play laws are in place to stop exactly what Matt Doherty is doing. I hope the people of Belmar wake up and see that in Doherty’s world, it is ALL about politics and Mayor Matt doesn’t give a hoot about the people or the town.
Again more money wasted. The Mayor doesn’t care about us poor souls. Good job from the former Mayor and friends.
If one takes the time to read the complaint you will get a full history lesson on Belmar under Matt Dorehty. By the end of it you may actually need some tums because it should make you sick to your stomach
Anyone who thinks that Matt Dorehty should be Freeholder needs to consider that moving him up the food chain just gives him more access to our pocketbooks at the county level.
Over 100,000.00 in one night. The price for doing business in Monmouth County?
I’m in full support of Mr. Pringle on this. Certainly Matt is up to his old trick with this baloney. However, that will not stop me from voting for Matt so he can’t focus all of his time on lousing us up here in Belmar.
Don’t forget we all pay county taxes too
I for one am sick and tired of a Belmar Business Administrator acting as aw writer, jurist and law enforcement. There is so much history even before this gang showed up, as evident in the text of the law suit. Each time I hear the elected officials take the oath of office, I cringe. My favorite statement in suit says it all: “The Defendants can point to no statute reflecting any legislative intent to carve out pay-to-play ordinances from the reach of the Faulkner Act. The real IRONY as before is that they are all Liberal Democrats who continually violate basic civil rights. We can vote out two this Nov. I call that a good beginning.
Hillary gets in…. it’s over. Turn out the lights.
Residents please read the lawsuit in its entirety it is a bit long but immensely informative and clearly shows Doherty for who he is.
As to the Democrat remarks: When politics are local you realize your true ideology. Folks may like a politician and think it makes them a Dem or Repub. More than 50% of the petitioners are Dems. The Mayor and Council’s decisions fall squarely in the Republican column. Examples: Using FEMA money and beach utility money for an expensive building, wanting to sell our beachfront to private developers, (then trying to change residential zones to beach commercial zones on ocean ave when the former didn’t work. Judge Gummer’s decision was based on the Public Trust Doctrine – doesn’t get more liberal that that. Republicans fought hard to stop the Public Trust Doctrine), Not heeding environmental warnings about 1. building along the oceanfront, 2. building a plastic boardwalk that’s too low, 3. not building dunes, and caring more about a couple of businesses than the general public, including the public school. Let’s face it folks, Matt Doherty is a Republican. BUT democrats are just as easily swayed by money and power.
If anybody is looking for some inspiration may I suggest going to app.com and reading the article on Belmar lifer Kevin Woolley and working @ home depot . Press like that would of cost mad matt a lot of his fundraising $$$$$ .
#11. Aileen. Probably the most original argument I have heard in the 10 years living here ( not to mention the many years I taught advanced placement U.S. History. You would have loved and excelled in my class. I would like to put forth the argument that political parties are nothing more than lobbyists and their interests have and continue to run counter to the rights and benefits of the people. ( Safe to do this year, the year of the outsider ). True the Public Trust Doctrine is a liberal doctrine. Our Constitution is a liberal document. They were designed to protect us against tyrannical/centralized government ( which in the present, knows no one party but both.) Matt Doherty is a Republican deserves more comments. While I agree that his actions and policies run counter to liberal ideals, and his actions and policies fit well with contemporary Republican politics ( why he, Maggie and Christie fit together perfectly)it will be shcking news to many in town.
Whew and thanks #11!
I didn’t think I had friends on this blog or on the other side, yet I can’t help from chiming in;) Lobbyists and their interests – you said it. It’s getting scary on national and local level….and both sides to blame
Aileen, I joined the Republicans because they fall more in line with my values then other parties. Some of these values are limited government, being fiscally responsible, and living by the rule of constitutional law. We call ourselves conservatives and this is how I voted on council. When our own party members don’t follow these values we try and force them out. That was the purpose of the tea party and people like me getting involved in politics. Matt Doherty is the exact opposite of me, a liberal democrat. He uses the power of his office for personal benefit. Belmars budget has grown by millions while he steals from the beach utility breaking civil rights. He handed out stolen gift cards for political benefit. I could go on and on. Not even one elected democrat in Belmar has spoken out against his policies. They support his actions and have no issue with this liberal agenda because they believe government (aka, them) is the solution to all problems. Liberal = government power. Conservative = limited government. There is a pattern of welfare, lower standard of living, higher taxes, corruption, poverty, failing schools, and bankruptcy where ever liberalism is found running unchecked. Detroit, Baltimore, Bankrupt Puerto Rico, NJ taxes highest in country, Newarks inner city schools, NY City murder and crime going back up, etc. All related. There are years of data to back me up. It is through compassion that I debate people to try and change voters’ minds to vote different and change the downward spiral. Matt Doherty, who supports Hillary Clinton, and Obama, who all look down upon the constitution, spend out of control, and don’t mind lying to move their agenda forward, legal or not, all identify as proud liberal democrat. This seems to suggest that his actions, of the above mentioned, are not in line with the Republicans at all. The democrat party has moved towards totalitarian and socialism, the exact opposite of the constitution. I know it hurts to admit it, but maybe your values and principles are more in line with mine, then the liberal democrat Matt Doherty, and if so, then maybe you are more conservative republican than you ever wanted to believe. Please stop identifying Matt Doherty as a Republican. If you are unhappy with the values in your party, leave it.
I have to admit that I have never thought of the Public Trust Doctrine in terms of being either liberal or conservative. It dates back to Roman Law when it established as a basic right of the people access to the sea to fish and for trade. It was later adopted as a principle of English Common Law, and then as part of the common law of the various states.
I think that the whole Democrat/Republican, liberal/conservative classification is philosophically inconsistent. We have Republicans who talk about wanting small government but also want our military to run the world. We have Democrats who talk about choice and that we own our own bodies but want to outlaw big gulp sodas and want our kids’ schools to be chosen for us based on our zip code.
Party affiliation at the local level is irrelevant as far as principle. Conservative Republican or liberal Democrat both parties can be corrupt. All I want is for the elected representatives of Belmar to act in Belmar’s best interest which has not been happening under Doherty. We are over $45 million dollars in gross debt. We are broke and will pay through increased taxes and diminished services. Our town is turning in the wrong direction. Unlike others I want Doherty to lose as freeholder. I want him to be held accountable for all the lies he has told residents.
Liberals are against the Death Penalty but favor late term no limits abortions
#11,15,16 & 17 Wow! a lively debate. Jim, I have to disagree with you. I know that you are speaking in a very narrow time frame regarding just what is liberal and what is conservative. Conservative is status quo and big government ( not talking econonmy ) Our Founding Fathers embraced liberal ideals. Conservatives have always, historically favored control by government authority. Therefore Eileen’s observation/thesis that Matt is a Republican is probably her way of saying he exercises total control and limits we the people. Just a thought. Ken, the spirit of The Public Trust Doctrine is EQUAL ACCESS to coastal areas by common people. Without it all of Belmar would be Inlet Terrace. Which is why the 25 year lease with Chef’s for Marina stating the common people can use the new area by invitation of the lease is so wrong and offensive. #17. Admin. A major point and why this “conversation” is so important and timely. All forgot the critical point, namely even if you are the minority, we live in a “Republic”. This fact we are loosing and that is really dangerous.
#19. After all the above, thanks for continuing to promote myths. What you posted breaks down when people are involved. I have very liberal leanings and don’t agree with either point. Sorry, some of us need everything in nice neat stereotypical boxes. Too bad we’re human and as such typically escape such confines.
#20 WRONG
The point is Belmar elected officials will have no vote on death penalty laws or late term no limit abortions. Start with what we can impact.
#20, you are playing a semantics game. Like a conservative in Iran supports the Khamenei and the liberal supports a democracy. We are only talking about the founding documents in America. A conservative wants to conserve it, and a liberal wants it liberally interpret it. Without political parties how do I know who has the same ideals as I do? If no one in the party shares my ideals I am in the wrong party. And stop with the “party affiliation at the local level is irrelevant as far as principle”. Tell that to the parents that are forced into the inner city schools system run by liberal democrats. Their children have no chance at a better life. And everyone predicted what was going to happen to NYC once the Dem’s took back over. This is all local level. You will always find exceptions on both sides, but the reason we stereotype (or join political parties)is because its usually true. I am so sick of the people not holding politicians responsible for the disasters they create. All you have to do is look at the incumbent re-election rate. NJ has been a blue state for so long, it’s no secrete everyone know not to die here. We have more debt then Greece, and nothing seems to be changing. Maybe if we keep doing the same thing, things will get better. yeah right, just like Japan’s plan with their 20 year depression.
Aileen you have many admirers for your openminded philosophy. You are not in lock step with anyone. Cheers.
As an independent I really can’t say I hold to being truly liberal or conservative. I find myself somewhere in the middle. Fiscally conservative and socially moderate. The pay to play ordinance change by our a Mayor and council is dangerous for all of us as residents of Belmar whatever party you want to belong too. Government officials that manipulate the law for their own political gain are to be feared and we the people need to be watchdogs and stand up to them.
Thanks Anonymous! And thanks to Ken for the education on Public Trust Doctrine. We look at our framers but forget how much the Romans gave us! The thing is this: if you take a stand you’ll see things (and politicians) more clearly. If you take a position you will likely get stuck on the wrong side of your own philosophy. The Dems philosophy is mine, but not all dems are created equal.
Jim Bean is right as far as his take on these posts. I believe in GRIP. The political class will continue to abuse the system until we take back control of the Power that We give them. If Aileen and Jim and Dave and anyone else who comments here is not willing to embrace this simple concept you are all going to be ineffective and might as well be smoking pot cause it will Never change without GRIP. Let’s send a message vote the 2 council incumbents out starting this year and continue every election until we have the power back in the peoples’ control.
#26. Katrina’s comment “we the people need to be watchdogs”, I feel is the most relevant statement. It puts the responsibility, as well as the source of all political power in the right place, with the people. Jim, I truly believe that election results in Belmar would change dramatically if at the local level, party affiliation would be irrelevant. That is why I have always supported changing the form of government to non-partisan elections. But then, that is just my humble opinion.
Right on Aileen..I feel the same way. It is not about Dem or Republican..it is just abuse of power. He is a Christie flunkie.
I was saddened to see my impression of Aileen was so wrong. Out of frustration she took a wide brush and painted a political party with a broad stroke, something her own Party seems to widely criticize in others and look down on. No, she is no one I would ally with and I am glad she is not of my Party. I am however once again grateful for Jim Bean to stand up and represent what I think our Party stands for. He did an incredible job in laying out exactly why I am Republican and further supports why I was more than happy to vote for him each time he ran. There will always be people in my Party that I will find it difficult to support and that I may choose to instead cast a write in, but listening and meeting Jim and then to see him on the Council made me glad to be Republican. I hope I will be able to say that this November with Mark Walsifer and Josh Vallario. So far I am not impressed and I have no idea what their beliefs about anything going on in town are. Mark has been completely absent for years and policeman or no, it would have been nice to see him at least at a GOP event. I guess we will see.
#24 and #31. Therefore… it would be appropriate for this coming election to make “climate change” a worthy local issue to rally behind. I am done, heard enough b s from the partisans, pretending that the majority in their parties are anything BUT hypocrites. #31. If you are so proud a GOP why are you so quick to throw your candidates under the bus? Unless you are Tom Burke, explain.
I was only commenting that the bloggers tend to say “the Democrats” when they complain about our leader’s actions. My point was that I don’t believe they took those actions because they’re Democrats. And looking at the particular actions, they do fall in the Republican column. Another example: Unfortunately, I think our debt warrants a tax increase. Matt won’t do it. Sound like a Democrat or Republican? Didn’t mean to divide you folks.
Actually if you’ve noticed, I usually refer to our group as “Belmar Democrats” not just “Democrats”. BTW, real Republicans don’t need to raise taxes because they don’t spend very much.
Gop is not the group to label TAX and SPEND. Bipartisanship worked for BELMAR in the past, it can work Now.
Checks and balances are necessary in every administration and should be welcomed; anything otherwise would smell like 3 day old bunkers on the beach. Remember when?
Reagan tripled the deficit, Clinton created a surplus…..
We could go round and round.
Thing is, when you say Dems or Belmar Dems it labels Dems. It’s not correct.
What should we call them then? I’m open to suggestion. Maybe the Dohertistas?
BTW I’ve been arguing for years to go non partisan in Belmar. It could be done by petition but I don’t want to be the one to lead the charge because I still plan to move in two years or so. Has to be someone who’s planning to stay.
BTWBTW, Congress writes the budget.
Hey Dave. Did you and Aileen meet with Claire?
If anyone is going to win any election in Belmar it must be with a bipartisan approach. We need to heal, not divide. The I am the greatest figment of my imagination doesn’t cut it for the average taxpaying residents. There are real economic and social issues that we have to work on together. Let’s get out of the mud and make Belmar a great place to live year round.
If anyone is going to win any election in Belmar it must be with a bipartisan approach
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I agree wholeheartedly. Every good citizen of Belmar, regardless of political affiliation should vote for Matt in this next election. Anyone who doesn’t should be shunned.
3 Noreen the problem is approx 1000 voters are left liberal loyal democrats who refuse to be bipartisan,refuse to be ethical, don’t have a fiduciary responsibility to the taxpayers and residents. They care more about the bars restaurants Unions financial supporters than improving the quality of life with their out of control festivals and school that some blame the kids that don’t speak English which is just an excuse.
IDK maybe just the Council. It’s OK I was just venting. I hear it all the time and it bugs me but that’s just me. If we had a Republican council behaving badly I wouldn’t say it was because they were Republicans. I would just say the council is (insert complaint). I’m sure I wouldn’t think their bad behavior is because they are Republicans. Anywho – I met with Claire. We disagree. Don’t think we changed each other’s minds. Big surprise;) But it was a good exercise to have to look someone in the eye.
I wish somebody had primaried them.
42 Aileen it is not just the council again, with approx 1000 loyalists they think its great that they are wasting time and money getting continuously sued. They would all follow them to prison and visit them when they finally do something really serious, they are so myopic,misguided, and ideology driven.There is no compromise they want control.
#41. Your statement is not true about the number and the influence of “left liberal loyal democrats” I participated and was active on every single petition. I have studied very closely the two voter referendums on the pavilions. registered Democrats made a big difference, signing petitions and voting no. The far-left loyalists include registered independents, Republicans and Democrats. Approximately 200 of the vote No mix didn’t show up to vote last November. If they had we would have defeated the Taylor Pavilion Bond by 183 votes. They are the facts. Noreen speaks from a depth of experience. We have common ground. We have a wealth of open-minded registered independents. I support Aileen’s complaint and look forward to emphasizing common ground, common sense that has no party identity but works best for as Noreen stated for “year round”.
45 Write In If what you say is true the Republicans would have won the election. I don’t see or hear any democrats complaining how this Mayor and Council is operating. Is being sued continuously and being told by a Judge what they are doing is improper i don’t see any democrats complain about the waste of time and money.
#46. A Voter 2. I understand, that you don’t see them. But that does not mean they don’t exists. Frankly, you very seldom see any but the regulars at council meetings. I repeat I know because I got signatures for years and that is the only reason that my experience is different from yours. Issues, like bonds are not the same as political campaigns and elections. Republicans ( just not local elections ) always win. So it has nothing to do with what I brought up. Face it, you don’t hear many independants and republicans complaining about the Mayor and Council either.
#41,44,46 A Voter 2 It is probably the most mind-bending reality in our local elections. The issues, like the law suits have been going on for 4 years now and yet the Mayor won re-election and council remains !!!!! So what did the informed voters from Rep. to Dems and Independents do each year? We dumped all the negatives about the Doherty administration on their laps. Result, no change. What many of us now know, it is Teflon and nothing sticks. Also campaigning on wrestling the local power from corrupt and inept officials will not be the way forward. What will be needed this year is to express enthusiasm and support for Walsifer and Vallario keeping it 100% positive and formulating the people’s view of tomorrow in Belmar. That will require common ground. I agree with Write In Belmar in 3014 had over 1000
registered voters of all parties vote for the good of Belmar. If it happened once, it can happen again. It’s OK if many Democrats remain silent as long as we all vote to correct the course of our town.h
After walking every petition, the problem seems to lie with those who vote party line regardless of the issue at hand. All of the committee people on current petition are either Dem or independent so to say there are no Dems unhappy with the current administration is not true. The problem, it seems to me, are those who go to the voting booth and pull the lever for whatever party affiliation they feel shares their values. Those values have become very blurred and twisted here in Belmar, as in the nation. I believe most folks want to believe that the people they voted for are going to be fair and balanced, whatever party they belong to. Unfortunately in the case of Belmar, we have a true politician using his position to future his own career.
I learned something important about my neighbors when the pay-to-play petition was being circulated. They overwhelmingly want to be involved in Belmar’s future. I’m generally not a hard-sell individual in my personal or professional life, but rather put the facts out there, promote the right and value of self-determination, and encourage people to embrace choice. Removing the words Democrat, Republican, and Independent from Belmar’s future, and not filtering information and decisions through those designations, will enable residents to make Belmar what they want it to be based on values,realistic resources, and the potential for a quality of life we all seek.
Right on Linlee! #49. The Voter statistics show something you won’t find in many municipal elections. These results consistently reveal that Belmar voters shift between parties when they are voting. A perfect example was 2013 General Election.
Christie won re-election with 1440 of the 1990 votes cast. Democrat Barbara Buono got 555 votes. Local Council despite Christie big percentage, Brian Nogovern got
1183 votes and Janis whatever-Blackburn got 1084. If you vote strictly Democrat You could say the base was 555 of the 1990 votes cast and not the 1000 plus by the Democrats for council. What I shows is that
631 Belmar voters shifted from column A to column B. That is consistent with the 8/19/14 Referendum a consistent and potentially powerful 20% of swing votes.
# 51 thanks for history! That’s encouraging Can you give us a a republican and independent history?
I just did. I reported a snapshot of Belmar’s voting history ( all inclusive ) It was a snapshot of a history where Republicans
win in all elections sans local ones. It is a history ( independents like you and me have no party, therefore no history ) made the difference in both Chris Christie big win , but also in the Belmar Council elections. My point being that if the Republican candidates wish to succeed this year, they need to connect to and address the issues of some Democrats, many Independents and some Republicans. From here on, I will refer to the in-touch mix.
If we don’t vote these clowns out the lawsuits will continue.
Independent and real democrat voters must be aware of the southender’s shenanigans!
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