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75 Comments
This payout should come directly out of the Mayor’s checkbook, a direct result of him laying off Police Officers for his political gain.
This is so wrong. Tragic accident but girls were wrong to swim when Lifeguards were not present. No amount of money will bring them back. Why blame others?
They were swimming in front of the lifeguard tower, is that why there is a lawsuit?
So much for dedicating a Belmar playground to the girls. Go for the bucks. I would counter sue.. guardians failed to supervise two minors, thus causing their deaths. That has more validity as a liability suit.
Victoria Perez doesn’t even know her last name? If you look on the first page of her tort claim, she actually signed Victoria Reyes. Or did someone else sign for her??? hmmmmmmm.
How much money did the town raise for these families and now they are filing a lawsuit? Absurd!
The Belmar Youth Club should sue to recover that $20,000 from the mayor’s ball.
The claim says received $10,000 charity donation. Funeral services donated and I’m sure other community donations were made
The Go Fund Me page raised over $60,000
When it comes to lawsuits and Belmar my first thought is “what the hell did Doherty do now ?” In this instance I believe the people filing this lawsuit are reaching and the town shouldn’t even think about any type of settlement. This seems like a money grab.
First: when and where and how were the families of the two girls given the charity donation. The go fund me sight says 60 thousand was collected.
Second: This tragic accident was just that, an accident.
This is just too sad from every angle.
This is absurd and tragic. It was an accident. So you come here illegally ,rent a lot the winter rentals, have many children that raise our taxes to absurdity, allow your children to roam unsupervised and then want to blame the community who came to your aid in this horrific accident. The whole thing is a disgrace . Maybe it’s time Belmar really sees who lives here legally and compare rentals to the school system. We have a big heart. Guess that wasn’t enough.
Do we know they came illegally?
These women seem rather ungrateful for all the town has done for them in light of this tragedy. Most people do not get this kind of outpouring of support from their community when a loved one dies tragically. This tort was filed prior to the parks being named in their daughters honor but they had no problem accepting. Come on ladies!
This is Belmar and it is NJ. No telling what will happen in a “court of law.”
I am suing Mexico for not building a wall.
Tragic, yes. But the Mayor was warned at public council meetings on both 2/2/16 and 5/3/16 that by reducing the amount of Police coverage on the streets of Belmar and Lake Como, he was compromising the safety of the public. Check the tapes. He blew both warnings off. Pay up Matt, AGAIN.
Police presence would not guarantee that people swimming in unprotected beaches will be saved. People do what they want, whenever they want. With that freedom comes personal responsibility. We can not and should not have 24/7 beachfront protection because some “choose” to do as they wish.
Can’t prove they are illegal? No social security number listed or wages lost on form . So they are either unemployed or we are paying some sort of payment to them . You can’t survive having a family and having zero income. I heard one woman may have been divorced maybe that’s the confusion in her last name. There must be an easy way to see if they are here legally . Is it legal to file a legal lawsuit if you’re here illegally? Where does this insanity end?#2 has it right. No amount of money can bring them back. That’s the tragity
# 18 you are correct about freedom and personal responsibility. To be honest I don’t think more Police protection would have mattered in this case. When you are young you just think your invincible. I did some dumb things when I was young but somehow through luck and the grace of god I’m still here.
I pray no one is horrible enough to try to copycat this with their kids in order to try to cash in.Unfortunatly, people have committed truly reprehesible acts for less money than this.
There have been numerous drownings on the Jersey shore throughout the years. Does anyone know if it is the norm to sue?
Ungrateful and exactly why a town has ABSOLUTELY no business running a charity. Shame on them and a message to the mayor and council- no more setting up charitable donations ! That’s not why you were elected.
This is absurd. These people are trying to profit off the death of their children and suing a community that selflessly gave over $60k and funeral services and named a park in their daughters’ honor.
#12 I couldn’t agree more. It seems the town and the school turn a blind eye when it comes to enforcing the law. There are numerous families that exceed occupancy levels in rentals in town and there are a number of kids who get dropped off in cabs every morning in front of the school. Are they really taking a cab from somewhere in Belmar???
our elected officials categorized the families as ‘working class’ …. can’t blame people for trying to advance their status.
Admin: I guess we don’t know for sure if they are here legally but I would hope it was pertinent information to a judge and that the family has a history of filing tax returns. Of not they shouldn’t see a dime.
Your right Gene but you can question their character
What has been done to prevent more drownings and liability
#27 What do you suggest? More no swimming signs in multiple languages? 24/7 Beach patrol? A huge wall? What method is fool proof?
A Big WTF — enough is enough — The Town should shred them apart & anyone else, who is with them on this!!! It’s time to stop turning our heads & ACT
Once again, You can’t make this stuff up.
What next?
#28 I suggest putting the ropes and barrels up in the water again like Avon has done. At least when you’re being pulled by the undertow you have a chance to grab onto the rope till help arrives. It’s the least expensive solution. It couldn’t hurt!!
New notice on the electronic billboard on 35. Welcome to Belmar, the most sued municipality in NJ. Matt you should be proud!
#31. If you were on the jetty and fell in. Very doubtful you’d make it to the ropes.
I really don’t think Matt is to blame for this one.
Live (and die) and learn in Belmar – to sue, that is. There is general lack of enforcement of rules in the Borough, like regarding certain illegally parked cars which escape the ticket writer. Lack of enforcement is a silent condoning of infractions, with discrimination thrown in regarding privileged persons. Money from fundraisers and charities cannot relieve responsibility of ignoring laws and codes. This lawsuit is a wakeup call. Some people get off free, some face the grim reaper.
If Matt and the council had prioritized the safety building instead of Taylor building there may have been some lifeguards hanging around that day at their clubhouse and those girls could of possibly beens saved. I think they have a pretty good argument.
Was that safety building ever finished and used this summer?
#33 -If you were on the jetty and fell in, would you rather have the ropes and a chance to survive or not have the ropes?
This was a tragic accident…not the fault of any Belmar personnel or first responder. There were policeman and first aid personnel who tried desperately to save the lives of these little girls, and a community that came together to support this family. Shame on the lawyer who is trying to profit off of this horrible tragedy.
# 38 Its does not appear these documents were filed by an attorney..
After a parent suffers the death of a child, they are not thinking in a productive manner. These people need to heal and the tort claim is just part of the healing process. It appears the parents completed the documents without a lawyer. Based on the poor crafting of the document, it is probably not going anywhere. The comments in this string are not very productive.
Who guided the families to file these? Could they have been asked for to document why Mayors Ball was paying them?
Doesn’t the “/s/” before their signatures indicate that someone else signed for them? It possible that if not a licensed attorney, then someone else said to them, “You should sue” and then completed the form on their behalf.
How can the town of Belmar be responsible for the negligence of the parents of these two poor girls? DYFUS should take their other children and they should be charged with criminal neglect.
#43 Because if you watch CNN or MSNBC or read the NY Times the people that don’t get what they want are all VICTIMS!! Criminals and illegal aliens now have more rights than the common schnook.The Democrats are pushing for no wall etc. etc. as that increases their voting blocks. They do not want to improve things they just want power and have a cushy job in Govt. Charles Barkley said ” For over 60 years poor blacks have voted democratic and they are still poor”
The parents probably feel helpless at this time, so tbey felt making a tort claim was a from of action. Grieving parents are just that….. I am pro US citizens, but these are two different issues. Grieving parents and illegals should not be part of the same discussion…
2 being rescued now in Asbury. What the hell is wrong with people.
#44 People should not be able to vote themselves into prosperity, because as Ronald Reagan said,”every dollar given to someone is taken from someone else”. I’ll generaly take what Ronald Reagan says over Charles Barkley.
Absolutely true. You can’t help anyone without hurting someone else by the same amount. More actually, because gov’t programs are so expensive to run.
It takes a village to raise a child so maybe we all failed as a village.
If they feel as if they have been wronged,and maybe they have, A civil suit is the only form of redress available.
#47 His point was the Democrats promised opportunities for them, giving handouts is not improving someone’s life. Obama did not grow the economy due to his policies and jobs suffered.
This is the result of greedy lawyers petitioning the parents with dreams of dollar signs. It’s a smack in the face to the community.
#49. Another example of laying blame where it doesn’t belong. How is the village responsible for two young girls doing something they most likely knew had risk? Not taking personal responsibility and accepting faults is what has gotten “the village” where we are. #notmyfault
Here’s a thought in no way am I defending a law suit!
But I am reminded of a time I had a small bump in parking lot, no one was injured, minimal damage to both cars but I did call the police to have. A report filed.
In the weeks after at least four lawyer contacted me and attached was the police report.
So I can only imagine what these grieving parents must have been initaded with by lawyers.
And if they were going to sue I am sure the forms would of been filled out by a lawyer.
#49 Take another glass of the cool aid. That’s the problem…………….Parents are thinking others need to help them………
Does the attractive nuisance doctrine apply to the beach when drowning risk is foreseeable by the Borough?
In Tubby’s opinion, the families would have a better chance of winning if the suit was against ICE rather than Belmar. The logic being if ICE deported them like the law requires, the drownings never would have occurred.
This is what happens when the Media supports the Democratic Party which consists of leftist progressives,anarchists,socialists, and communists. If the government does not take care of me and my family i will sue!
This really has nothing to do with race. And this has nothing to do with being greedy.
Belmar can be found liable because they didn’t have proper signs posted. yes it says, ‘NO LIFEGUARD ON DUTY.’ But it doesn’t say, ‘NO SWIMMING’ either and this is cause for a lawsuit.
Yes, the family received donations from random people including tax payers, but this doesn’t mean a thing. If Belmar had a sign that said ‘NO SWIMMING’, then I can see the argument.
Dave we’ve brought up this issue about signs, in the past.
Belmar Guy are you seriously saying that the girls didn’t know they weren’t supposed to go into the water/on the jetty without guards just because the sign wasnt easy enough to read? Dud you see how many were at the beach today? No guards yet people swim. It’s a choice
Well. I bought a ladder today that was encased in a clear plastic wrapping. On the wrapping it stated boldly “Do not placed plastic near crib or children”. Just as a cup of coffee states “Caution, may be hot”. It’s all about CYA today. Too many lawyers and liberal judges. WE ALL PAY FOR THIS in one way or another. Pay up Belmar taxpayers. Get used to it.
#59 Stop drinking the cool aid. You will feel better …………
no swimming, no surfing, no fishing, no climbing on rocks, no walking on the beach….where does it end? The signs are fine as they read now. No lifeguards on duty. Everyone knows what that means. Especially Residents of beach communities.
Thursday, Sept. 21st, Belmar boardwalk was packed with high school age kids.
Some were walking in large groups 10 to 12 kids…trouble? Saw alot of people on the beach…All this exposure about Belmar on the news attracts gawkers/out of towners. It’s a burden to first responders, police, and Belmar residents.
#59 the sign says “Lifeguard Off Duty. Swim at your own risk”
what else should It say? “No swimming” and then should we fine people who swim in the ocean when lifeguards aren’t on duty. Seems a bit extreme.
Unfortunately, freedom to choose when & where to swim sometimes cost the ultimate price.
#64 I agree – too much publicity for this town! Most were probably home from school for the holiday and it being a nice day the beach attracted them. It didn’t use to be like this ;o(
#65 I agree start giving fines -that will keep them away except what would you do with the surfers?
I’m pretty sure beach regulations are only seasonal during the days the beach is officially open. Everyone is in Gods hands when venturing in the ocean now.
We should stop teaching kids that their safety and welfare are someone else’s responsability, starting with those pedestrian have the right of way signs. My mom used to tell me to look both ways before crossing the street. Now I even see adults just blindly walk right out in front of cars even when there is no traffic behind that car. Someone will get hurt or even killed someday because the laws of physics trump the laws of man every time. To me anything that has the propensity to kill me has the right of way no matter what the well intended do gooders have to say.
#69 Also how about teaching kids what ethics are and stop being fed that if a boy wants to be girl that’s ok. and how its ok to disrespect people, and riot in the streets damaging other people’s property.
Hey Mayor. Why don’t you fly up some displaced Puerto Rican lifeguards to work the beaches this weekend, weather’s gonna be alluring. Hurry, you can probably arrange to make a Channel 7 am broadcast from the boardwalk. Novel. They can sleep in the Safety Pavilion, that’s if the CO has been okayed.
#70 I don’t care if a boy wants to be a girl or vice versa but I do not think that bathroom usage should be used based on whatever one feels like that day because that infringes on others rights.I agree with your riot and destruction comment becaus that in fact infringes on others rights too.
#69 – I remember when a woman stopped her car for me in the Manasquan circle as I waited for a chance to cross over to the center of the circle. The drivers behind the woman seemed somewhat angry at her idiocy. When the lawmakers make such laws, they have no real idea of what will come of it.
Heard there were 9 beach rescues on town yesterday
74. They were on the rocks and couldn’t get off safely, so of course the safety team of Belmar came to their aid quickly and got them back to dry land
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