Plan Was To Break The News Next Year….
Taxpayers dodge a bullet….
Judge Gummer:
THE VOTERS MUST KNOW NOW,
BEFORE THE ELECTION AND
BEFORE THE PAVILION IS BUILT
THAT…….
The $727,000 from Buy-a-Board
belongs to beach!
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The $484,000 in insurance
belongs to beach!
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Approx. $2.2 Million
of the FEMA $$
belongs to beach!
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Only the $437,000 that FEMA will pay
for 5th Ave, $306,000
(which is 40% of the 13th Ave $$),
and $176,000 (which is the 4.3% of Taylor
devoted to the badge sale counter)
can legally be used to build new Pavilion.
Balance of $4.1 Million cost
must be paid by taxpayers!
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Also…Because restaurant construction
can’t be paid from badge sales,
1/3 of the $2 million cost of 10th
must be paid by taxpayers!
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Mayor’s funding plan
was civil rights violation
of beach users!
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Time to reconsider entire plan?
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More details as soon as I have them.
55 Comments
WOW….
If I was on ship with Matt Doherty I would be looking for the nearest life jacket…Vote No…Vote Schneck..
Well now I will have a nice chilled glass of wine.
The music is too loud at DJais to hear what you guys are saying!!! Who needs transparency? What we need is transgendered parents – si! Sorry I got into the old man’s wine – party at DJais, BAYBAY!
Do you think after these rulings that anybody would even consider voting yes? They would have to have their heads examined. Thank you plaintiffs and Mr. Kenneth Pringle.
Claire you’re right just take Matt at his word. Time to stop drinking the Kool aide
the Truth-I’m fine with where I stand….why does that bother you? Find another target…..
This is what you get when you give up your governing to folks not qualified to serve. The “do what Colleen recommends” or dictates,
the total transferal of authority to one, ill equipped and non-experienced business administrator by a mayor and council drunk with power has to stop. To take a line from a recent mailer, “enough is enough”. I am not celebrating cause I hate waste. I might celebrate if after the word gets out the bond is defeated once again.
It to easy, put your head back in the sand. If you really cared about the people in this town you would take what’s left of the 5 G’s the union gave you and tell the towns people that your funding is a fugazi .
Taxpayers have not “dodged a bullet” if
more than 50% of the Kool-Aid drinking voters vote YES. We will have to wait and see. Do you think Conressman Pallone, Senators Booker and Menendez coming to the ribbon cutting at the Roberts/Keef- Home-By-Summer House on 14th St., Monday at 12 noon will speak in favor of the Bond Referendum? Shade of Christie last summer.
The mayor and council have been put on notice, it is incumbent upon them to hold an emergency council meeting (or just the regular one Doherty cancelled) and withdraw the 4.1 million dollar bond. It will not be free, free, free as taxpayers were told.
Time reveals everything.
I agree #11, a special meeting or reinstate the regular meeting, plus a mailing to all residents before the election stating pure facts. They have time. Without doing so, I would think the question could be challenged. What about the ballots already cast absentee? The Administrator, Finance Officer, and governing body have a lot of explaining to do as it relates telling residents no cost to us. Actually, as I am typing, think the whole question should be thrown out by the Town/County and just start over.
It is time to quote Tom Burke 8/5/15
“do you not believe him when he says it will cost us as taxpayers no dollars for the pavilions? I say let us get on with what we need to be done. Have faith in the system, and trust the mayor’s words”. Well I still have faith in the system.
It’s Dejavu all over again!
It is time right now for all of us to get the word out about the judge’s decision to everyone we know in town that are on the fence about the vote. Don’t prejudge them just give them the facts, let them make up their mind. I know at least 4 or 5 people I can talk with, so lets all do it
Haven’t read Judge Gummer’s wisdom …. yet …. glad she protected the public!
Thank you. This is wonderful news.
Schedule an emergency council meeting first thing Monday morning! Post it conspicuously everywhere. Wake the town and tell the people that they were duped again by the Mayor and Council over and over again from the dias as well as fantasy, self serving, lying letters to “stakeholders”, residents and voters. Belmar generated Misinformation disseminating it through mailings that you paid for under Belmar’s banner.
Thank you to all the brave individuals who thought so much of Belmar’s future that they were willing to subject themselves to slings and arrows in addition to deceptive machinations by the administration. Integrity, honor and ethics speak volumes as to your unselfish characters.
I’m so proud of all your efforts and, especially, your humility through it all.
I’ll email Matt and ask him to scheduled a meeting so he/they can cancel the question on the ballot.
The town has a real hard time winning these frivolous law suites.
Because of the court’s ruling about funding etc.and allocation of monies,
shouldn’t the borough be required to inform all voters of the change before the vote is taken?
They need to announce that no matter which way the vote goes they will repeal the bond.
So now the bond ordinance is really just a moot point and if not addressed by the council prior to 11\03\15, it will is just usedas a vehicle to get incumbent votes cast, correct?
No, if it passes they can build the pavilion at a cost of millions to the taxpayers. They SHOULD repeal the bond. Doesn’t mean they will.
Sorry Tom Burke I miss-typed your exact quote as 8/5/15 when it was written by you and posted to Tom Burke’s
Belmar View on June 5, 2015.
If they repeal the bond, those friendly labor union guys who have invested in Belmar’s Democrat party will be huffing and puffing and possibly…things could get ugly around here. Please, Mayor and Council, do the right thing for the borough – stop borrowing and pay the bills you currently owe, no more pie in the sky. And watch whom you do business with.
the “fabric of our community” beachfront venture is terribly stained …. but, the M&C will persist with another finance fairytale …. because their paid special interests don’t like NO ….
We already owe a million in Maser bucks …. need bulkhead repair $’s, 1.3 mile Ocean Ave concrete curb $’s and Shark River dredging $’s …. we’re another day older and deeper in debt …. thanks to the M&C.
Tom says we should trust Matt and build them anyway , this is just another frivolous law suit. Tom I think the people of this town need to know where you stand On this issue in light of the court ruling . They also would like to know if we should have un cancel the town meeting so that the people can be informed. Time for your voice to be heard.
The wiggle-room is accepting reservations now.
Now would be a good time for a Nicolay red code alert to spread the word.
What ever happened to the idea that most municipalities try to achieve, Make Belmar a better place to live! Oh my god what a thought.This agenda of helping Unions and friends and money donators is self serving and does not improve Belmar! The beach is not going away, people will still come no matter what type of Pavilion or lack of one there is. the Democrats of Belmar are selfish and egotistical in nature. What happened to the ideals of JFK Ask not what your country can do for YOU ask what you can do for your country.
The mayor and council are not forced to hold a council meeting or repeal the bond. Do not hold your breath. I do however suggest everyone contact the mayor and every council member by email and tell them you are a taxpayer and do not want to pay $4,025,000 million to build the 5th Ave and pay another $660,000 to build the 10th Ave.
#34, Legal Guy, that bond was adopted by the mayor and council under their statements that grant money etc. was to offset cost. How can they not be forced to repeal it? In regard to holding a meeting they may be or may have been already together or conferencing calling with counsel discussing what is to be done next. Just not for the public. They already know how residents feel about this topic. In my mind they only have one option. What were residents told with the Dem’s door to door campaigning? What a mess.
Whomever perpetrated this “it wont cost taxpayers a penny” lie should resign!
A vote for Dave, is a vote to save $$!
Several Mayor and Council meetings ago, Mayor Doherty said, live on videotape, that if the pavilion cost exceeds 4.1 million dollars, he will let himself be recalled. If the building project goes forward because of a YES vote, if there are change orders, material costs going up, etc., watch the numbers. I believe that the Borough Administrator stated that the cost of the 5th Avenue Pavilion will not be be known until it is built. It is my humble opinion that this mayor should resign. Why drag this out, vote NO.
And yes, Dave on the Council is a must. As Councilman he would have access to records, although he may have to fight to see them.
Does anyone know if the Court addressed anything about the election question in this recent ruling? Just wondering after reading this thread.
As I recall the old public safety building on 10th and ocean was not much more than a small area for the lifeguards and first aid to store equipment and the jet ski.
If we need a new one for safety reasons than so be it, but I don’t think we should spend money for a place to hang out.
Since Sandy, have we been any less effective at addressing safety issues without the public safety building.
Pavilions are not necessary, just window-dressing. Things have worked well without them the past three summers.
Vote No to overpriced pavilion.
Vote No to politicians who deny the truth.
Vote no to any more bars in Belmar.
Vote yes to more bars in Belmar, vote yes for a place lifeguards can stash booze baybay
The financial adviser mayor should be able to figure out to finance a pavilion for himself and call it the Doherty Pavilion. His ego would be gratified and he can employ those he owes, as well as save the Borough of Belmar money. He must remember to obtain a permit, though.
#44. Calculating what he owes ( Matt that is) this week alone- he has 2 U.S. Senators, 1 U.S. Congressman and the N.J. State Senate leader- ALL showing up to make him look good. That’s got to cost a lot!
#44 Remember figures can lie and liars can figure. I cant figure this guy out, loses lawsuits and continues plotting another scheme to mislead the public and no shame or outcry from the Democratic Party i guess they like enabling him or are afraid of him.
I believe, that all elected officials and all appointed officials by ordinance must read and comprehend the “Public Trust Doctrine”. Imagine how much we would have saved in money, wasted time and effort had this been so. For all the posturing and self-righteous liberal mouthpieces like: Mark Fitzgerald, Carol and Bob Cupoli, Brendan and Christine Read, it is time to give an ear to civil rights. I mean all civil rights, not just the ones you select from a limited racist menu.
#45 I wonder how all these congressmen and senators are going to feel when they show up to support matt and later on down the road they find out that the 14th ave house committed insurance fraud and the mayor knew about it. That should go over well
if it was a bipartisan, non political opportunity to celebrate the homeowner return it wouldn’t be right before the election. Residents ate not stupid. if anything they don’t like being pawns.
Thank you to all who helped with everything. To Kenneth Pringle and staff especially. And to ADMIN. what can anybody say you were there from before the beginning. Thanks to all.
To all involved it was a dynamic effort going back to the beginning. To his staff and Kenneth Pringle may thanks. Admin you
and your army really started it all. He must have died when he saw that camera. To anyone who thinks a Yes vote is the answer I feel sorry for us all. Please reconsider and vote NO or we will not be living here in our town of Belmar.
Anyone that goes to the fourteen ave celebration should bring Vote No signs
Maria – Good thinking. What time is it?
#52 Maria. I think that is a great idea.
So let me get this right. The Keefe house cost 458k to build according to the permits that Dave acquired. The Mayor said that the Home By Summer Campaign raised 240k for two families. So it sounds like to me that someone is owed about 300k for the building of the house. So if the Mayor is trying to be slick and add that 300k into one of the bonds that he is trying to get, does that mean that the tax payers that donated actually are paying twice. once for the donation and now paying because taxes went up because of these bonds. I wonder if it will ever end.
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