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62 Comments
Well said Mr Pringle, it takes guts to take a stand when you know that you will take flak from people who belong to the same party as you. But I Know it’s because you love the town and can’t stand seeing it go down hill. But I’m sure there are many Belmar residents that feel the same way and will vote to save Belmar regardless of what party they belong to. It’s not about Parties, It’s about Belmar.
My hat is off to Ken Pringle. His letter is a clear view of the way things are and ,more importantly, of how things should be. I want all my elected officials and those they hire to have the best interests of the residents of Belmar as their priority. To the extent they place their own interests and ambitions in front of ours shame on them but if we allow it shame on us.
I remember the days when we had 5 oceanfront bars, and I would find people sleeping it off on my front porch when I got up or a front yard full of bottles and debris. Even worse people in a shouting match at 3,4 ,5 a.m. Sometimes you had a big weekend and got all three.
I hope my fellow taxpayers can see the onset of significantly higher taxes as the debt payments start to roll through the budget. If you get taxes ever higher than current high rates and quality of life problems too that is a clear road to reduced property values for every owner in the Boro.
Choose wisely or pay the price later.
I read the letter, and felt it was spot on too. I feel that the town has slid to the point that I may sell and leave….hoping my fellow town members do the smart thing on Tuesday.
PS – as an accountant – always wondered how you increased services and programs (increased costs); but don’t raise taxes….I haven’t seen the current council cutting staff or expenses to offset….makes me wonder how it is getting paid for
Debt
What was it again that was coming to Belmar Fitness on Ocean Av – near 7/11?
I would not be surprised if the Borough employees are being paid their salaries with loan money. The loyal Doherty followers have to be innovative enough to cross the party line and vote for “The Team You Can Trust” – Bean and Seebeck.
When you take the time to listen, in this case listening to the written word, you learn. Today I learned everything I needed to know that was confusing and misleading in Belmar. I am clear now. I am voting for Jim Bean and Mike Seebeck.
Thank you Kenny & Kathy
Thank you all! Let’s hope that come Wednesday morning Belmar heads down a path to once again becoming a better place for families.
With all due respect, I would really be interested in hearing the Dougherty/Brennan team’s response to the issues set forth in this letter instead just brushing this off as another “personal attack.”
Pringle is obviously against our recovery.
When the mayor tells you no tax increase for 4 years, and every police officer in town is driving a patrol vehicle nicer than almost every resident’s personal car. You have to wonder, what is going on. Ken’s letter is very enlightening.
Ken. Again I thank you it takes a man to write what you have under the circumstances.
Most of the people in town felt that through it all you never really set out to hurt the town. That is what counts.
I still don’t understand why the regime hired Donkey DuPont, Esq. from Red Bank …. especially when you consider that the best counsel is home grown and located on 7th Avenue….
Gene — Thanks for the kind words. I love Belmar and will always look out for her best interests. But I want to do that as a concerned and independent-minded citizen, and would not consider serving as Belmar’s Borough Attorney.
I trust this guy Bean and his running mate Seebeck.
Mayor Doherty wants chain restaurants on Ocean ave? Chipotle mexican grill coming? its hard enough for little ones to cross to the beach without a mega fastfood place. Where is our promised bike lane? Can We not just be the small town,We have always been?
One end of 8th ave the smell of a brewery & now a chipotle grill is being talked about on Ocean ave? This is Belmar not Edison.
Thank you Mr. Pringle for your time and $$ spent to educate the residents of Belmar. Also all please don’t forget to vote in the other slots mainly senators to stop Mr. Reid from his obvious agendas.
Thanks again Ken. You, your fellow attorneys and the employees of PQA have masterfully represented the citizens of Belmar at at time they needed you most!
Read this article and see what your “endorsed” candidates are lowering themselves to win, by surpressing and dis-enfranching voters !!
http://www.app.com/story/news/local/neptune-wall/belmar/2014/11/01/belmar-republicans-challenge-ballots/18358221/
Michael, you can’t vote in Belmar if you haven’t lived here for two years. Someone is “lowering themselves” but it’s not Bean supporters.
I wonderful spin control document is being conjured up today and will be in my mail box tomorrow….or hand delivered by D’Jais. …….well at least it will be over on Wednesday with Jim / Mike prepping for the house cleaning
Two very obvious points of Mr. Pringle’s letter are that Mayor Doherty doesn’t intend to be sitting in the mayors seat once these bond issues come due and he’s only using this mayoralty as a stepping stone to higher office or appointment in Trenton.
To the anonymous “admin”,exactly what day/date did the individual stop living in Belmar ?
First of all, Mike, “admin” refers to the administrator of this blog. It’s me, Dave.
Secondly, residency is not determined by emotional attachment. You have to vote where you reside and where you receive your mail. Sam is not being dis-enfranchised. He is perfectly free to register and vote where he lives. This is what’s called obeying the law, a concept that is foreign to this administration and its re-election campaign.
Mike, regardless of whether a voter lives elsewhere, absentee ballots (and applications for them) are also rejected if the signature on the application does not match the voter’s signature as reflected in the County’s voter registration records. The directions on the absentee ballot form are very clear. http://www.state.nj.us/state/elections/form_pdf/vote-mail-ballot-012712-mon.pdf A family member of mine, who has lived in Belmar for 30 years had his absentee ballot in the August 19 referendum disallowed because the signature on the application didn’t match his signature in the County’s records. Make what you will of this, but it’s not voter suppression. It’s the law, and it applies to all of us.
We are just wondering..who is running for office? Kenny Pringle or Jim Bean??? Wasn’t 20 years enough for Kenny Pringle? As far as D’jais they are great neighbors for all of Belmar residents. They have done so much for people of Belmar and for the town. Have no clue what Jim Bean feels about anything. But we sure do know what Kenny Pringle thinks…I’m done…..
“Gentlemen”, which reason are you asking for the abstentee ballot to be rejected. Domicile, signature, voter assitance or another reason? Also what about the other approximately 140 challenges, what are the reasons for them. I must add that my review of Mr. Bean’s challenge form appears in multiple handwritings to me.
After this week, l will be happy to sit down and have a political discussion with you, over drinks at your expense, since l am a retiree on a fix income.
A ballot can be rejected for more than one reason.
Mike, in the special election “no” won in every district. Yet the absentee ballots went heavily to the “yes” side. When Bean first ran for council in 2009 he won at the polls but the absentee ballots so favored Doherty that he won. With all the shenanigans going on with D’Jais registering new voters and hand delivering their ballots, you really think that Republican suspicions about illegal voting have no merit?
Yes, there are without merit,l think you protest too much.
Mike, How was Mr Kaye harmed? As a veteran he’s likely to be happy to see the system to protect our right to vote is being policed I’ll bet he wouldn’t want to be a party to something dishonest. I’d rather see checks and double checks and know that we had an honest election. If he has a right to vote in this election I’m sure he will be allowed to.
The challenge of any questionable vote is a win for all the residents of Belmar. It doesn’t matter if it’s one, ten or a thousand.
When we bought our house in Belmar in 2002, we did so because of the changes the town was obviously going through from the party place at the Jersey shore to emphasis on residents. I had spent many a night in Belmar growing up so I knew of its horrible reputation first hand. When we moved in we were sandwiched between Tropical Pub and DJs. My full time neighbors warned me not to put even a flower pot out for it would be broken or stolen. At first I scoffed. Then reality hit with the coming of May. Soon the late night (or more accurate early morning)fights, screams, urination’s, garbage and destruction began. We had the police on speed dial. The police were diligent and responded promptly making us feel that at least the town was trying to respond to residents complaints. Then Trop Pub was torn down and I must say I rejoiced. People started investing in the south end, taking a chance, tearing down ugly dilapidated bungalows and building beautiful homes and moving in full time. Paying big taxes where those bungalows paid a pittance, not to mention were dangerously overcrowded in the summer. DJs continues to be a draw however and now we find ourselves on the northern fringe of the mayhem. (I think anyone who runs for council or mayor in Belmar should have to live within a 6 block radius with their children, parents and grandkids for a summer) Which brings me, however long winded to the point. No one BUT Jim Bean on the council seems in the least bit concerned when residents get up at meetings and beg for help with quality of life issues. No one BUT Jim Bean questions the spending in town, or if perhaps they should listen to residents that ask their neighbors if they would like a say on buildings and bond borrowing. Or if they are following the laws that are supposed to govern them. Isn’t that what a leader is supposed to do? Not necessarily tell you what you want to hear but what you need to hear? Some people say What has Jim Bean done? I say if you went to meetings, or watched them on this blog you would know! Think ahead my fellow citizens. Think of your property values, resale values, debt ratio. Read Ken Pringles letter again with out bias towards how much DJS does for the town but how much they COST the town, in policing, quality of life and political influence. Think of what will happen if our Mayor pushes to allow zoning changes on our improving ocean front. Oh and one more thing, I remember when I was still a Daherty fan, before going to town hall meetings and seeing for myself the complete contempt and disdain he held anyone, Jim Bean included, who had the nerve to ask him to explain his actions or intents, I remember the big celebration at the ribbon cutting for the boardwalk. I remember the ONLY business from Belmar allowed ON that boardwalk that day, with a gigantic banner held by a bunch of young people, with its name in giant letters, was DJS. I remember thinking, how strange, none of the other business are represented. How strange? Or just a foretaste of things to come?
Although this is not an election on D’Jais, although their ownership seems to be treating as if it is, the taxpayers of Belmar need to understand what their establishment costs us all. 3-5 police officers are assigned to their location each Friday, Saturday, and Sunday in the summer along with other police resources which are required to transport disorderly patrons to our local lock-up and police personnel required to process such unruly persons. What we also should understand is the dozens upon dozens of ambulance calls to their location for everything like young men with their noses perpendicular to their faces or the numerous “alcohol poisoning” calls for service. So D’Jais is a grandfathered neighbor who we must all live with and they do return somethings to our community like the sandcastle contest and some free booze and buffets, but understand it all comes at a cost to civility a community deserves. So long ng live D’Jais, but at a controlled and managable bar, and stay out if out towns politics and elections.
Djais is good for one thing, police overtime.
Bill Kaiser,
A better question may be who is running Matt Doherty or Frank Sementa?
Bill Kaiser,
Never mind I see you and wife hugging Frank on facebook…yup Frank is running for Mayor with your support..
Donna and Bill Keiser, Jim Bean and Mike Seebeck have written a number of letters, most if not all of them reprinted here, regarding the issues that Belmar faces and their plans to address them. I find it interesting if not and amusing that you choose to cling to Ken Pringle’s letter (a good idea btw – you should cling for your life) because based on your comment, I’m assuming you read it… But apparently you neglected to read the ones authored by the candidates who plan to fix what’s broken in Belmar. PS I find it charming that you both share an opinion though you might both be better served listening to the facts and voting the issues and not partisan politics.
i didn’t see anyone write any campaign letters like that for Matt Doherty. Is Kenny Pringle going to sit in the office with Jim Bean to so he knows what he is doing? Just sayin’
If Matt had been endorsed by Pringle he’d be waving that letter all over town.
Donnna and Bill..Keep drinking the kool aid
MICHAEL D DRUZ……You complain to much. Take two aspirins and get a good night’s sleep
Because nobody is as smart as Ken Pringle on their side…maybe you can as Frank to write a letter for Matt..just sayin
To “guest” and Annie. The facts are if you walk down Main Street you see how well it has been developed in the last four years. Businesses are coming back…that’s the facts. We go to the town meetings. Every time Mayor and council suggest in doing something, Mr Bean is mostly against everything. For your information we are independents. We vote for the person who is right for our town. And that is so childish writing that we are hugging with Frank Sementa on FB. We are not arguing with people, we just feel that if Kenny Pringle is coming back to run this town behind Jim Bean, we don’t want that again. We have been residents for over 40 years here. Think we know what we are talking about. Not going back and forth with this..we feel what we feel.
Vito Corleone
Watch out you owe everything you have to my people and me!
Show your face, since you have so much to say and be an adult. Until then you are “nothing”
Because, Mr. and Mrs Kaiser, Matt and his rubber stamp council’s actions these last few years are indefensible – except perhaps by the man who stands to benefit most from the mayor’s arm length relationship with the private unions (as we all know you can’t get elected without them – and he’s already alienated the public unions) – Chris Christie. You don’t call a handful of visits to Belmar from the Governor outright endorsement? At least Bean/Seebeck are being endorsed by an intelligent, experienced resident who is passionate about Belmar and its future. Matt is no more invested in this town than Christie is in NJ. DOHERTY and CHRISTIE- Perfect Together. Note to Belmar and outside unions hoping to work here. If the budget insanity continues we’ll have to start cutting fat somewhere. If you don’t think municipal layoffs and a decrease in public projects are possible to make us solvent-think again. Hard.
Even if you don’t want to take the concerns Ken has regarding Djais as true, there is no denying the reckless spending and debt. I have yet to see any information from the Doherty side debunking these numbers. I’ve heard talks of revenues, but revenues don’t matter bc they don’t take into account expenses. For example, say our marina generates $2.9m, that sounds wonderful, but if it costs $3m to operate our marina then we are in the red. On the other hand, if it only costs $1m to operate our marina then we are in the green. It would be great to be provided with this type of factual, relevant information. As a truly independent voter, I would love for the mayor to respond to the ‘Belmar’s Finances’ portion of Ken’s letter (at the very least). As unsexy as it is, financial responsibility matters; and if it doesn’t matter to you now, it will when all of this debt comes due and Belmar taxpayers are on the hook.
Sammy K the 90 year olds house had a full contents tag sale this weekend, so the idea that he was moving back is doubtful. You can verify that right here. http://gsalr.com/open-house-estate-sale-belmar-nj-21803130.html?new-window=1
Thanks “Teak” – A look at the tag sale details from the link you provided had a contact number and name for more information – 732-455-xxxx Ask for Luis. Interesting, but that is the phone number for Luis Pulido, a Matt Doherty operative and paid consultant for the Doherty – Brennan campaign. Wouldn’t Louis believe that Mr Kaye’s “Everything must go!” sale would mean he has very little intention on returning to Belmar?
Cathi #5
803 Ocean Avenue was sold to Robert Eliseo for $1.125M on September 23rd …. Robert Eliseo appears to be J Wild Beverage Corp., Bronx, NY.
I wonder if Mr Kaye voted in the Ocean Twp General election last year?
I doubt it. He probably only votes in Belmar, but he should be voting in Ocean.
Comments 48 and 49 should be shared with Erik Larsen, of the Asbury Park Press. He wrote the story about Sam Kaye, and I think he might find this interesting. So to the people who have the info, please share it with him!
Erik Larsen: 732-557-5709 or elarsen@app.com
MICHAEL D DRUZ…You say I am nothing..I admit I’m very old and tired. However, my son Michael does not like people talking about me like that. So say you are sorry for your last comment.
Donna and Bill… You are completely wrong. This town is in debt and can ill afford the current Mayor again. Bean and Seebeck can work us out of this spending mess.
This letter is very contradictory. Both of Brian Pringle’s children work at D’Jais and in a way, Ken is putting his own niece and nephew down. Very sad what this mad will do for revenge. Give up.
Yes this letter is contradictory for sure from Ken pringle. I agree with you “anonymous”. It is very sad indeed.
What an informative and eye-opening letter, and thank you to this forum for keeping us in Belmar updated on what truly happens day-to-day.
Don’t think Ken is doing anything but telling the truth.
To the other anonymous, are you saying that Mr. Pringle should be like so many others on the other side and play games. I think he cares about the town he served for twenty years and truly LOVES. As far as his niece and nephew go they would more than likely want him to do what he feels is best for the town. unless you mean their employer might take it out on them. WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
When Pringle was mayor he was just as dirty as the rest. I like how he set himself up with his property on the water next to kliens. I’m sure he changed some rules So when he was out of office he would profit. They are all dirty.
Someone just told me about this defamatory post by “All Politicians Are.” Neither I nor anyone in my family has ever had any interest whatsoever in the property next to Kleins. Not now, not ever. I used to have to put up with lies and innuendo when I was mayor. But I don’t have to now. And I won’t. So if you hear anyone say anything similar to this, tell them that unless they’re prepared to prove it in court, they should shut up.
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