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28 Comments
Keep it Clean in Belmar, vote NO
Well done, Patricia. Thank you.
Great flyer Pat
Two out of three are bald.
They are brothers
Most men get the “bald” genes from the father.
My research shows “bald” men have much more hair on their arms , chest , legs than non bald men. Don’t laugh but I was a research scientist at a prominent drug manufacturer. Now I am just an uninteresting “OLD MAN”.
High testosterone
Thank you for the flyer Patricia.
A great flyer. If the yes votes win…………then there is absolutely zero hope for this town
Everyone put your flyer in your window or front porch until Tuesday and get the NO wrote passed. Make sure you go to Main Street and vote and all your friends. No NO NO. NO
I still fail to see the argument for voting YES. I think Tom Burke’s letter to the Coast Star attempted to present rational as to why to vote YES, but in my mind fell short. If I understand, Tom is suggesting that we sacrifice the ethics of our small town so that in the event that one of our local politicians aspire to run for office at the county or state level, they are able to accept all donations from anyone because other towns do not have the same standards. My understanding is that if the Mayor aspired to run for county office and didn’t want to abide by the current pay to play ordinance that he could resign from his mayor post and take any donations he wanted to. Is that correct? If so, then I don’t think we should sacrifice the ethics of our town for those aspiring for higher office.
He should have picked a different town to launch his political career from.
Pat, you nailed it. Great flyer.
Holy Cowabunga: I didn’t understand the question on the sample ballot I received. Thank you Patricia, whoever you are, for the interpretation. Visuals really helped.
I only went to parochial school so my English and critical analysis didn’t help me understand the ballot. I am voting NO.
Tom Burke wants to vote yes? What a shame. He has sunk to a new low.
#16. This was an all time high point for Burke. Apparently you missed the many low points while napping. Dave’s blog is like a chronological history lesson. Maybe you can go back and catch up.
Kudos to Patricia Corey.
A NO vote will be best for Belmar.
I may agree with your message in this flyer, but was it really necessary to traumatize the families of these men by using their pictures and names in your flyer? How cruel and insensitive. They and their families have lost EVERYTHING. EVERYTHING. Their families have been through a four-year nightmare. Although the men are still incarcerated, the families, who have done nothing wrong, struggle to put the past behind them.You could have gotten your message across without opening up these wounds again. Shame on you.
They are the pictures of CRIMINALS. They and their families deserve all of the punishment served upon them, and them some. Their families enjoyed the “fruits” of the unlawful labor these men employed. And you, GUEST, paid for it in the long run, whether you can see that or not. Open your eyes. Yes, YOU, the lawful, taxpaying citizen, pay out of your pocket for CRIMINALITY TIED TO POLITICS.
I agree with Guest. Asking for neighbors to vote no by exposing a neighbor isn’t a good way to bring us together for the cause. I hope it doesn’t make potential NO voters feel turned off. People may ask, “wasn’t Birdsall our town engineer”, “how did other towns get in trouble – were they fined? There’s no detail about the individual town’s repercussions of the pay to play”, and “he must have donated to Belmar during our original ordinance, no?”. There may be answers to these questions but it doesn’t matter now. It’s out there, and the only clear message that seems comes through is a neighbor’s mug shot. Apologies to Pat who is great for spending time and money for the cause, but I disagree with the tactic.
Having the pictures of the three white collar criminals on the mailer was a bit rough, but remember, not everyone who breaks the law looks like a criminal, like our infamous mayor, for example, who is a potential candidate for that role. What does a criminal look like anyway? Harsh times, harsh methods.
The majority of Belmarites can’t afford to live on Inlet Terrace. Apparently Criminal (s) can. Enough said.
I agree with Guest, too. The family members of these men were as much victims of their actions as the towns Birdsall Engineering tried to influence with their campaign contributions, but they suffered far worse for it.
But the Birdsall case is a cautionary tale that should be told — but without the pictures. Because Belmar’s P2P ordinance prohibited contributions from the Borough’s professionals and their employees, no Belmar candidates or officials were among the many hundreds of candidates who received contributions from Birdsall employees that gave rise to the charges. Ordinance 2016-01 would lift the restriction that kept Belmar off that list.
No one intends to hold families of convicted accountable. It is hard to see your family member truths be told. As difficult as it is, no nose rubbing intended, they are convicted and it is in the public record. Pubic discussion of that is fault of the public, it is the consequences of the convicted.
Was the subliminal message in the flyer really a REAL wake up call to those companies who would want to bribe corrupt municipal officials?
I honestly sometimes cannot believe how critical people can be when they sit back and do nothing. Showing the faces of the criminals hurt their families. Yes that is unfortunate.
Birdsall was I believe the largest engineering firm in the state. Rolling in money, millions and millions of dollars for years in contract awards due to giving illegal campaign contributions. It was a well thought out comprehensive illegal scheme used for years to usurp the system and allowed the families to enjoy the benefits of living an amazing lifestyle. Do you feel sorry for the families of other engineers that worked legally earning far less because they were being lawful. No one, wants to hurt the families but the families need to look at their loved ones. It does not bode well with me to feel sorry for the families but I do. You sound kind of uppity and holier than thou. Of course we feel badly. Every criminal has a family do you sympathize with each of them as well. Maybe but likely no.
Guest – rather than feel sorry for the families do something for them. Maybe you have. But keeping secrets only allows criminals to benefit from their crimes. Just for the record I think one of the convicted Birdsall executive’s has a relative now happily earning millions from Belmar for all our engineering. I guess you feel good for his family. I guess his family is okay with that.
Guest and others your statements are part of the problem. It is not a perfect world just follow the law. I blame many in this town for allowing Doherty to continue to be unlawful and many residents not taking a firm stand against his behavior.
Illegal actions have consequences that is all that you need to know.
Full title to the Inlet Terrace property was conveyed to the spouse, and the family is thankful that the picture is not in the obits.
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