Common Sense For Belmar Liberty Begins At Home

December 14, 2019

Tuesday Night

Filed under: Uncategorized — admin @ 10:47 am

 

The agenda:

 

The resolution packet:

 

Noteworthy:

Ordinance that rezones the Bank of America property is back on the table for 2nd reading, hearing (and probable adoption.)

Appropriation of $160,000 to pay legal reimbursements stemming from the previous administration’s civil rights violations.

Transfer of Jack’s Tavern license.

Another PILOT project. It’s for the two properties next to the 7-11 on 11th.

 

Here is the redevelopment agreement for it.

I hope that at the very least they send the school what it got from those properties before the PILOT.

20 Comments »

  1. Must be another friend of Belmar mayor council member. We don’t need pilots in Belmar.The ocean is enough of an incentive to get people to buy up these shacks.

    Comment by Not fair — December 14, 2019 @ 11:56 am

  2. Thanks for highlighting Dave.

    Comment by Aileen — December 14, 2019 @ 12:29 pm

  3. Does this mean on year two they’ll pay 12.5% of $100,000 for each lot? Or does the land assessment have nothing to do with the PILOT revenues each year? Confused.

    Comment by Aileen — December 14, 2019 @ 4:23 pm

  4. I’m not sure what that means either. Someone has to ask about this Tuesday.

    Comment by admin — December 14, 2019 @ 4:29 pm

  5. I don’t think I can make it to the meeting. But here’s what I know (for anyone going that’s interested). The current land assessment is $279,000 for each lot. The tax bills are $6161 and $6473. If they’re getting 12.5% of $100,000 and it goes up from there, it’s a windfall compared to what we receive now and I’m sure the town would love to share with the school….right Mark? We’ll talk;)

    Comment by Aileen — December 14, 2019 @ 4:31 pm

  6. Please understand that without PILOT programs there will be no down town improvements. Is everyone happy if the town agrees to do the PILOT but requires to send the same amount of money it currently collects to the school. Is that the sticking point?

    Comment by moving forward — December 14, 2019 @ 6:57 pm

  7. The borough can receive quick income from a PILOT, as Belmar is nearly broke, but that money would most likely go toward paying off massive debt if the financial overseers are prudent. And then, of course, use such money for payroll, utilities, etc., you know, necessary stuff. Downtown improvements? Entice businesses to fill the empty storefronts, not build more.

    Comment by elemental — December 14, 2019 @ 9:51 pm

  8. #6 How the heck do you know that?

    Comment by OLD MAN — December 15, 2019 @ 5:39 am

  9. #6 I’m not against development. I like it. I just want it to be fiscally sound for all, for the parking and traffic to be managed and for the appearance to be good (specifically, trees, plants and open space required for all new development).

    Comment by Aileen — December 15, 2019 @ 8:49 am

  10. #6- I think the answer to your sticking point question would be- yes. If the town allocates some of the revenue to the school, that would be acceptable. However, I disagree with you assessment that without the PILOT there would be no down town development. Belmar has a lot to offer. During a down economy or in an area that is blighted-neither of which are the current situation in town- the PILOT makes sense. It doesn’t make a lot of sense right now. The original designation and PILOT deals were a Doherty money grab so he could print campaign material saying that he hasn’t raised municipal taxes. The deals were bad for the town. That is why you see a lot of resistance to them now. Fool me once etc etc. as the saying goes. But yes, if the town negotiates that some of the ‘payment’ goes to the school then I think more people would be ok with it.

    Comment by co pilot — December 15, 2019 @ 10:49 am

  11. There are 4 homes on those two lots. All 4 are occupied.
    Are they going to build another multi-story apt building or Condos ?
    They need to make 11th ave a 2 way street again, cops rarely enforce wrong way drivers, especially the soccer Moms going to 7 Eleven after school lets out. Traffic will be murder with a new building there.

    Comment by 2 Lots — December 16, 2019 @ 7:19 am

  12. How many are they going to build ? 2 ? 4 ?

    Comment by TownHouse Units ? — December 16, 2019 @ 8:33 am

  13. I thought the mayor was against PILOTs?

    Comment by Another Highrise — December 16, 2019 @ 9:15 am

  14. Isn’t this another leftover from the past administration?

    Comment by Anonymous — December 16, 2019 @ 10:29 am

  15. #14 This PILOT project is getting voted on tomorrow night, not during last administration. Throwing up your hands and blaming the last administration only works for so long. The more I see of this administration, the more I think this is just more of the same. Catering to friends and developers, ignoring everyone else. Lots of lip service, but voting the other way.

    Comment by Another Highrise — December 16, 2019 @ 10:54 am

  16. #8 Because I have been developing communities for a very long time, started back when you were a middle aged man.
    #9 I think you see the value of proper development but please remember its a give and take on both the residents/developers.
    #10 Thank you for your answer and I believe 90% of the community feels that way. A store front or two may get developed with out a PILOT and we can continue the miss match of another shore town downtown, or we can do a PILOT, let the town get the same $ amount it would before construction and we can have a downtown that looks great.

    Comment by Moving forward — December 16, 2019 @ 3:31 pm

  17. #15- The designation WAS done during the last admin. The contracts for the completed projects have no carve out for the school. There is a good chance that these will have a carve out for the school. Because unlike the last administration, this one seems to care about Belmar. I get that you think this is more of the same, but believe me, it ain’t. May we never have a man like Matt Doherty anywhere near the boro hall ever again. The last administration gets blamed only for the things they are guilty of. And the things they are guilty of will be felt for years. You may want to get used to it.

    Comment by Hold on there — December 16, 2019 @ 3:40 pm

  18. #16- That’s an aesthetic opinion. You call it miss match, I call it interesting. Some people like a town that develops organically with diversity and character. No all of us want to live on the set of the Truman Show. That certainly is not Belmar.
    Also, not to disparage what you do- but you don’t develop communities. People develop communities. You develop property. There is a difference.

    Comment by co pilot — December 16, 2019 @ 3:50 pm

  19. Yes, the organic and diverse shuttered store fronts are interesting… said no one, ever. Or a plan that develops properties that thrive and are welcoming to visitors and residents, yes that is developing communities. Anyone can buy land,developing aesthetically pleasing environments that people flock to, yeah that is my artwork. I’m sure you have benefited from that type of work and never got the chance to thank that person.

    Comment by Moving forward — December 16, 2019 @ 7:22 pm

  20. #19 Ha ok. You’re an artiste. I didn’t mean to offend. But if you had anything to do with the hideous box on 10th or the cheaply built erector set on 5th and main, then I’m afraid you are a tad delusional.
    Sorry my artistic friend, those profit driven shoe boxes are not art, nor are they community builders. They are soulless symbols of greed. But, they’re probably here to stay so just give the school its fair share, ok?
    p.s. Organic and diverse store fronts aren’t shuttered. But homogeneous cookie cutter “developments” always wind up aging horribly.

    Comment by co pilot — December 16, 2019 @ 9:19 pm

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