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33 Comments
If 10th Ave. is allowed , why not he. Is that sign up to snuff? Wonder what they plan on building on top of those metal columns, parking garage I hope. I bet Flames sefrves up one hell of a FREE lunch to our M&C, Please vote these people out. Vote Jim Bean for anything.
That is a way below average size sidewalk. Who the hell decided to do that? Crazy. I can’t even get by with my wheelchair. Hello council/mayor…where are you?
Ridiculous and the 5 dopes plus their minions sat there at the last council meeting and told us that their hands were tied. No you dopes, your hands are never tied and you can always say NO! Fight and protect the residents for once and stop passing out favors.
ADA compliant? If the sidewalks are not passable for wheelchairs..this council will be dealing with another lawsuit!
Fire Marshall and code enforcement looking the other way? Catering to tourists and bars that is top priority for this administration.Community Policing what a joke! All talk…..
At the meeting they all said they were very surprised it met ADA rules. They went there and measured it themselves because they thought this must be a mistake. A lawsuit would have to be filed with the federal government.
They need to move the sign…tripping hazard.
All these little things add up to a very unpleasant environment… M&C many Belmar home owners are very disappointed… Oh sorry #5…. I meant BENNY home owners..
#5 perhaps w/o portable sign, bike chained to pole it could be.
I have to move the signs (there are usually two) when I take my walk with Alex every night 🙁
Idk what I said about bennies but you may have me mistaken for someone else.
Next time I go by there and have time to stop I’ll go in and let them know they have to move that sign. Maybe they’ll do it right away and we’ll be in good shape. Hope that doesn’t rain on your complaining parade:)
according to Borough’s Zoning Code … four feet (4′)is the magic number …
4. The Zoning Officer shall review each application to ensure that the proposed operation of the Outdoor Eating Area, Outdoor Dining Area or Sidewalk Cafe Area will not interfere with pedestrian or vehicular traffic. Six (6′) feet of unobstructed sidewalk should be provided with the exact width being determined by the Zoning Officer as he deems it to be appropriate to promote pedestrian or vehicular safety or the visual harmony of the neighborhood, however, in no event shall the unobstructed sidewalk be less than four (4′) feet.
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/sidewalks/chap4a.htm
4.3.3 Width..minimum passage width for wheelchairs should be 36 inches continuously (ADAAG,U.S. ACESS Board,1991) ADDITIONAL WIDTH IS NECESSARY FOR MANEUVERING AND TURNING.
4.3.4 Passing Space and Passing Space Interval..Wheelchair users require 60 inches by 60 inches to maneuver in a complete circle.
4.3.8 Obztacles and Protruding Objects
These objects that protrude into the pathway can make it difficult for use re s to traverse: benches, bike racks, cafe tables and chairs, folding business signs, planters, sign poles, street light poles, street sculptures, traffic sign poles, trash cans, tree, bush, and shrub branches.
ADAAG U.S. ACCESS BOARD, 1991
I’m pretty sure those signs should be behind the 4 feet. They need to be moved.
How did the residents of this town lose the sidewalks?
Next time on main st. imagine if every sidewalk was reduced to 4 feet how hard it would be to get around. Nobody could pass anyone without going into the street.
The town officials should have never let this go through. What were they thinking?
2010 Standards for Accessible Design
have been in effect since March 15, 2012.
http://www.ada.gov/ADA 2010 Standards_index.htm.
13 – It’s called a political favor. Some things in Belmar will never change.
I just saw the new atm machines on the boardwalk Who is getting the commission on these ugly machines.Belmar looking like seaside heights..
#10… I am not mistaken about your recent BENNY comment… But you must have voted for Hillary, because your comment was scrubbed from the blog…
I haven’t scrubbed anything. Whatever comment you are referring to must still be there.
Do the landlord’s insurance carrier, public utilities or the boroughs, for that matter, care about the shared property liability for the permanent fixtures cemented into the “new” sidewalk’s your taxes paid for ??
There is little room for pedestrians and the permanent structure of poles? with fencing? unheard of.Outdoor dining used to go to the board for approval. You had to provide a layout , garbage ,seating etc. I was told the previous administration lifted or changed that rule. If so this new administration needs to see what was undone and put our rules back. Jack’s awning was the largest but their sidewalk is much larger hence Federicis. Connie from George’s restaurant came before the board and insisted for her large awning using Jacks as her example. Most chairs were pushed and stacked to the side after serving hours. Outdoor Dining was suppose to enhance our downtown, be able to dine outside in the fresh air and show there was life to our business district. Somehow pushing the limit to now create a pedestrian hazard was not and should not be our goal especially for those in wheel chairs and baby carriages.
16 – Have you seen the clown running around with the video camera and posting every occurrence, including ball playing on the beach which a Councilman condoned, to Facebook? This is Seaside Heights, get use to it.
Agree with #16. Terrible look and the explanation was a crock of s#@*
#17 you ARE a benny. Don’t hide from it. Embrace it. Benny’s are the life blood of this town. Without them, who would leave their trash om my front lawn before driving back to Staten Island? Or defecate in someone’s out door shower? Or mow down pedestrians with their IROC? Or break into a strangers home to sleep on their couch? See? It’s a proud tradition that goes back many years.
*Disclaimer- Not all bennys exhibit the behavior mentioned above.
I like Bennys. I wish I was one. Still – the rivalry, whether it be just for fun or for real will never go away. It’s just what we do – make fun of each other. Apologies if you took it seriously/personaly (and I still have no idea what I said, btw).
I can’t understand why people call liberals snowflakes when I read some of the stuff people are so upset about on this blog.
Since 2017 the zoning official can approve sidewalk dining … the zoning official doesn’t have any authority to grant relief from required sight triangles …
40-7.5 Sight Triangle at Intersections.
Unless more stringent regulations are provided by other provisions of this chapter, at the intersection of two (2) or more streets, no hedge, fence, screening strip or wall higher than thirty (30″) inches above curb level, nor any obstruction to vision, other than a post not exceeding one (1) foot in diameter, shall be permitted on any lot within the triangular area formed by two (2) intersecting street lines bounding said lot, or the projection of such lines, and by a line connecting a point, on each line located twenty-five (25′) feet from the intersection of the street lines. (Ord. No. 1992-32 § 7.5)
I agree #24! I mean sheesh, why would anyone who is disabled complain?! They can simply place the signs out of their way, I mean physically they could at least do THAT right?! And Tracy Bean, she could just leave her child in his wheelchair alone on the sidewalk and go inside and politely ask them to move the signs. That IS your solution correct? Simple! Our sidewalks and roadways are so safe these days, who cares about stupid signs infringing on people’s access to walk down the street. You bunch of hypocritical snowflakes!
#26 what are you babbling about? I can’t see anywhere in #24s comments that suggest that disabled people move the signs. There’s also nothing stated that says that anyone should leave their child outside while they ask the restaurant to move it. The way I read it, she’s saying that’s what she will do and hope it’s removed permanently from being in the way. You don’t like that? She’s also clearly poking fun at Summer Timer who seems to be very sensitive about Benny status.
What’s your beef? What are you angry about? Do you even know? Some of the most light hearted tongue in cheek comments on this blog are met with such anger. Maybe it’s time to lighten up and take a breath and reeeelax. I think we can all agree that flamehenge being erected on a public sidewalk is a bad idea.
#26 – are you saying “Summer Timer” is Tracy Bean? She’s not. Are you actually saying I am not for the betterment of her son? That’s insane. I direct you to follow Eugene Creamer, who uses a wheelchair and is stating (in better detail) what I’ve been saying — that these are the current laws. The mayor and council could have and sure – should have – been more stringent to allow more space, but they didn’t have to. This is an example of how we can work on creating a new ordinances for ADA and general space quality of life, but not an example of why we should bash the M&C for simply following the law.
Now, to mix my reaction to Summer Timer’s benny accusation with my highlighting Summer Timer’s complaints about the restaurant’s new outdoor space is not fair. Don’t lump things or twist things. This is exhausting.
Guys – things are far from perfect. But the problems we have don’t warrant the level of complaints we’ve had for the last 8 years. There is a difference. Previously, we had borderline criminal fiscal activity. We had lies. Now, we have problems and disagreements but the 2 former problems have been eliminated.
#24…. I am not offended,as I have been called much worst…. I clearly don’t conduct myself in the manner that #23 describes, but for some unknown reason I am called a BENNY… There are a few others in the neighborhood that are also summer home owners and they have also been called BENNY’S… They are very nice families and we find it comical that we are called such an odd name… Each of the families I refer to, as well as myself have very nice well keep homes that have enhanced our respective neighborhoods… Just for the record I think you are a very nice young woman, we just have different political views….
I concur with #20, this ‘outdoor dining’ is clearly reaching the height of the ridiculous. I don’t know if it can be reined in now but if it can it should be. I fthe m&c are happy with it they should be held to account. If not they should use their legal counsel effectively and get control> this last on 10th breaks the camels back. Did the ‘zoning official’ on his own hook approve all of that? Btter find out what was he thinking …and maybe start looking for a replacement if he thinks this is an equivalent to other places with out door dining.
#30 – Well said. Things have gone too far as far as the outside dining is concerned.
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About Flames. It’s my opinion that restaurant is not going to make it. The outside dining with them is not greed, it’s desperation. They’re just not making it. I don’t think they’ll survive until this time next year.
Talk about a visual nightmare!We have created an obstacle course . Look at the 2nd picture closely, you have a 10th ave cement marker,the traffic light,telephone pole,new light pole,bike locked up not on a rack, sign placed in walkway,lots of outdoor heaters for those breezy summer nights, a flower pot left to beautify the mess and now pole after pole to mark the territory of outdoor dining.Love the moss on the sidewalk for the green look. After all aren’t we really about keeping the environment natural? What a mess. Be the 1st person to make it to the end a get a trophy or be the 1st person to trip and collect a bundle. A prize for everyone. We should be receiving a robo call for sign up details.I also think after reading this someone will decide to try to clean up this disaster and decide it is the flower pots fault and it must be removed!!!
Don’t forget the chalkboard . Maybe it’s there to leave a comment? Kitchen sink to follow.
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