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Breaking The Law

A little discussion today about Benford’s Law, a mathematical observation that predicts the frequency of the first digit of all sorts of numbers. It seems to accurately apply to financial reporting numbers, geographic numbers such as street addresses or length of rivers and tabulation numbers like vote counts. It is commonly used to detect financial and election fraud and has in cases been accepted as legal evidence.  If any of you out there are financial auditors you probably know about it.

Here is an explanation from Wikipedia:

And some of its applications:

It was damning evidence in the Enron case.

And as mentioned above, in the 2009 Iranian election.

We have a comparison from Chicago of the top six presidential tickets’ results compared to what would be predicted. Trump, the Green Party, and the Libertarians had numbers that pretty much fell in line with what would be expected. Two of the tickets didn’t really get enough votes in Chicago to even reach digits that would have a lower likelihood of appearing. But look at Biden’s numbers.

Now when you hear the talking heads say there is no evidence of “widespread” voter fraud they are trying to distract you from what is really going on.  We not talking about widespread voter fraud.  Whether or not there was any voter fraud in Kansas or Oregon doesn’t matter.  What we are talking about is massive specifically-targeted fraud that would do what it would take to flip large states.  It was particularly helpful for potential ballot stuffers to know the results from election day and then utilize the big city urban Democratic machines to generate enough votes in the days after to flip the big states that they then knew would be within reach, e.g. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan.

In the graphic below the top three rows are Trump’s numbers in blue compared to the expected numbers in orange for Philadelphia, Milwaukee and Detroit.  In the bottom row we see Biden’s numbers in blue for the same three cities.


BTW, voter turnout in Milwaukee was an unbelievable 90% with some precincts reporting more votes than they had registered voters.

Update: Pittsburgh too.


  1. People have spoken wrote:

    I know it is hard when your guy loses but please stop with this nonsense disguised as science. Trump lost. The numbers you site in Milwaukee and Pittsburgh are simply not true and even the most cursory research shows it. And your buying into the narrative of a deranged man who refused to accept defeat gracefully. It’s unconscionable. Let the baby have his lawsuits. We will ALL see soon enough as it goes through the courts that he lost fair and square. That, even though there was a rather shocking amount of people who did vote for him, he was just too unpopular with the majority of our nation. Voter fraud exists. It is perpetrated by both parties. It is, and has always been, rather insignificant. If you’re going to commit it, without fear of getting caught, you might as well increase your power in the H.O.R. and regain power in the senate. That didn’t happen.
    So move on, accept that Trump was just too unpopular to be re-elected to a second term. He will act like a spoiled child but it’s up to the rest of us to act like adults. My faith in my country has been restored today.

    Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 3:34 pm | Permalink
  2. admin wrote:

    Biden got fewer votes than Hillary in every major American city except…you guessed it…Atlanta, Philadelphia, Milwaukee and Detroit.

    Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 4:06 pm | Permalink
  3. Anonymous wrote:

    Trump exposed the corruption! 50% of the country saw it! Biden certainly does not have a mandate!

    Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 4:02 pm | Permalink
  4. slanted side-eye wrote:

    Sad day for America. The Biden voters did not know what they did, i.e., committed the nation to a road to devolvement, loss of choice and freedom down the road. The Democratic party now is not what it used to be. Whoever chooses to insult me and call me a snowflake, is what the left has become, intolerant of those who do not agree with them, left wing “fascists”, although they would not know that, have a lack of knowledge of history, because they believe they are right and those who disagree must be squashed. Sounds kinda Nazi, huh? Trump was the best thing for the good ol’ U.S.A.

    Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 5:34 pm | Permalink
  5. Great day wrote:

    #2 nope. Biden had huge numbers in the cities and huge gains in the suburbs. You can proclaim that there was fraud and I can proclaim that the moon is made of cheese. Evidence. Trump will get his day in court and he will loose. There’s nothing there. Move on. This election was a repudiation of Trump. That’s why the senate stayed (or will stay) in republican control. Gains in the house too. And republicans did very well in state legislatures. If that’s fraud, well the Dems are really bad at it. Move on. Now you know how I felt in 2016. There are problems we can fix together.

    #3 you mean HIS corruption was exposed. The poor guy is gonna try to pardon himself, just watch. And it wasn’t 50% of the country, it was less. That’s why he lost. Over 4 million votes and counting. Biden won with a greater margin than Trump had in 2016. Just numbers. But even though Trump certainly acted like he had a mandate, Biden isn’t a child so, as he’s said, he’ll govern like an adult.

    Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 5:38 pm | Permalink
  6. admin wrote:

    Trump got 10% more votes than he got in 2016, in fact the most in American history. That is not a repudiation. Biden got more but a lot of his were fake. There’s lots of evidence but you refuse to look at it and instead rely on coverup operations such as CNN and MSNBC to guide you what to think.

    Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 6:43 pm | Permalink
  7. Anonymous wrote:

    #1 After all the money the Dems have spent since day one of his election to try to impeach him. He now has full power to waste everyone’s money to prove his case. So, i didn’t hear any Dem objectors on the millions they spent over the past 4 years on fruitless outcomes, so…sit back, shut up and lets see what he has to say.

    Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 5:54 pm | Permalink
  8. slanted side-eye wrote:

    If the Biden win holds, an investigation and possible impeachment regarding the Hunter Biden scandal and Joe’s involvement and enrichment may ensue. After all, the Dems did their best to bring down Pres. Trump. And there is evidence, contrary to what the media may claim. Nasty business, politics.

    Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 6:54 pm | Permalink
  9. Sour grapes wrote:

    #7 never said Trump can’t or shouldn’t take his case to the courts. It is his right. All I was saying is that he has no evidence of any wrongdoing. None. His cases have been getting dismissed as fast as they file them. Please don’t tell me to shut up. I’m sorry your guy lost but let’s try to move past Trumpism.

    #8 if there was even a shred of evidence of Joe Biden’s involvement in any illegal activities with his son, Bill Barr’s DOJ would be all over him. They’ve been talking about if for over a year. I’m sorry buddy but there’s nothing there but fantasy.

    Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 8:58 pm | Permalink
  10. Mark wrote:

    Do you for 1 minute recognize the planning and conspiracy as well as the ability to keep it secret required to pull off what you are suggesting here? You are looking like an even bigger nutcase conspiracy theorist with this post. He lost, get over it, and try to work to find common ground with your opposition.

    Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 9:08 pm | Permalink
  11. Mark wrote:

    …and by the way, if they went through all this trouble, don’t you think they would’ve secured the senate and more house seats as well? Clearly, Republicans split their ticket, voted for Biden at top, and Republican the rest of the way. It’s as simple as that and this craziness, is just that, crazy. And BTW, WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH BELMAR?

    Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 9:20 pm | Permalink
  12. admin wrote:

    From novelist and former accountant Larry Correia:
    “Another thing you learn to spot when people are fraudulently manipulating data, is the mission-oriented spikes. On this one I’ve seen a few links, but the data has been so in flux that I’ve not been able to confirm it, but supposedly a bunch of the sudden Biden spikes weren’t just statistically improbable, they also voted for president but not the down ballot races. Now, lots of people will vote for president but don’t care about down ballot. However, when you get a pile of those in a row, that suggests somebody in a hurry filling out the mission critical bubble and then moving down stack, assembly line style.”

    When you have tens of thousands of ballots to fill out in a hurry you don’t bother filling in the down ballot bubbles.

    In Michigan:
    Trump: 2,637,173
    GOP Sen: 2,630,042
    Dif: 7,131

    Biden: 2,787,544
    Dem Sen: 2,718,451
    Dif: 69,093

    Just like in the topic of this story, Trump’s numbers make sense and Biden’s do not.

    Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 11:16 pm | Permalink
  13. Diane Koplish wrote:

    #1 I agree with #7, The Dems (Hillary) never accepted the fact that she lost to Trump. They wined and complained for 4 years. They could never accept the fact that a non-politician could be President and run the Country AND run it better than any of the previous Administrations. She/they tried everything they could to get rid of him but he was successful with everything they threw at him. Now he has to defend an election that was purposefully as corrupt as the Democratic party could ever be. There was absolutely NO reason for mail in ballots. If we can go to Cosco and Shop Rite we should have been able to use the voting machine. It would have to be wiped down in between each voter. We are used to wiping down everything we touch and having our temperatures taken everywhere we go. This was such a sham caused by the Democratic Governor’s. Voting by mail opened us–We The People–up to so much fraud it’s disgusting. Now an election that WAS corrupt should be investigated and the guilty should be prosecuted (along with the Biden crime family).

    Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 10:54 pm | Permalink
  14. elemental wrote:


    A: Raises a question about the possible misuse of mail-in ballots, like vote harvesting in the senior building for the Democrats during the Doherty administration. And Brennan’s mysterious win over Valerio, like how did Brennan know that 3 votes were not counted.

    Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 7:13 am | Permalink
  15. admin wrote:

    Some of the readers are relying on coverup operations such as CNN, MSNBC and the NYT for their information and then say there is no evidence of voter fraud.

    Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 7:36 am | Permalink
  16. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    “If voting mattered, they wouldn’t let us do it.” Mark Twain
    I shudder at the thought of this going into the stinking fed courts. There’re few worse people in this world than our federal judges.
    Sure the Dems. stole the election. But the election was never going to solve our problems no mater which maggot won. Now, the only thing left to be done is choose your side and first, take up a good position, control your breathing, bring sights to six o’clock bull, take up trigger slack, let the round go at exactly the right moment – one round, one hit (All Rifles Matter).
    It’s about time we put Thomas Jefferson’s dictum to action and have another Civil War. It’ll clear the air.
    As for me, I’m committed to the Constitution. However, I can’t be involved for the most part because my input would not be much good at my age (I don’t think even my own side would want an old guy like me getting in their way). In my youth, I fought a war for Republic Corp, Boeing, Raytheon, Grumman and a zillion other Corporations. I thought I was fighting for the Republic, but that was not the case. Now, Patriotic Americans have the chance to put things right.
    God Bless America

    Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 7:17 am | Permalink
  17. elemental wrote:

    A: Left out the biggest example, D’Jais involvement with delivering loads of mail-in ballots before the limit was changed by law.

    Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 7:21 am | Permalink
  18. Sour grapes wrote:

    #10,11 Exactly
    #12,13,15 Again, making claims is not the same as illegal actions. You fail to see that there has been, at least so far, zero evidence presented about wide spread voter fraud. By wide spread I mean enough to change the results. None. So whether you watch CNN, MSNBC, FOX or PBS, there has been no evidence presented. None. There’s been a lot of ‘claims’ of course, but the courts require proof.
    But let the law suits work their way through the courts. I think they should. I know that you will come up with a reason why the courts are corrupt when these law suits are thrown out. So you probably have a few weeks to come up with a reason why a Republican President, a Republican controlled senate, a conservative majority SCOTUS, a postal service run by a Trump donor, and a vast field of conservative judges were no match for a handful of local election officials. Hahahaha. Oh and this is the first election since 1792 where there was enough voter fraud to change the outcome of the presidency. Oh and they were able to do it in front of the Republican watchers. Oh and the Republican state legislature election laws helped them.
    It’s really kinda funny when you step back and see what’s happening here. You just can’t get your head around the loss. It is painful believe me. You are experiencing what we all experienced in 2016. Shock, disbelief. But it’s real and life goes on. All I ask is that when the courts rule on all of Trumps ‘claims’, that you accept the results and move on. Please.

    Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 8:24 am | Permalink
  19. Anonymous wrote:

    #18 of course we will move on. But we are allowed to bitch for a little while. The Democrats bitched for 4 years!

    Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 9:29 am | Permalink
  20. Sour grapes wrote:

    #19 bitch away. I’m totally down with that and I totally understand it. But claiming that because you lost the election that must mean the election was rigged while offering no evidence, is not the same as bitching. It’s calling into question the entire democratic process because your (meaning Trump) ego is bruised. You can say all you want about Hillary Clinton, when she lost she accepted it and CALLED the president. She did not claim that the election was rigged and refuse to concede. So bitching is fine. But claiming that our election system is rigged without any prof? That’s a different story.
    Sorry Admin, your graphs and innuendo are not facts. The Benford law you site literally says that applying it to elections has it’s problems. And your graphs are from right wing web sites and aren’t even accurate. And even if they were accurate, ITS NOT EVIDENCE. This nonsense will go through the courts and then we will all see that this is a political move, not a legal one. However, if they find that this election was stolen and that Trump really won, I will make an apology and I will accept the finding, but I’ll can still bitch.

    Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:24 am | Permalink
  21. Disillusionment wrote:

    #16 you can’t at the same time say you believe in the constitution and then go on to degrade everything it brings. You do not like the constitution. It explicitly proclaims rights for ALL people. That’s not your thing. You seem to be into rights for white men, but no so much for anyone else. You actually would be quite happy in Iran or Pakistan. Places like that. They still cling the old manner of living.
    You want a civil war? To ‘clear the air’? So violence and death is the answer. That’s cool. I’m just glad that your impotent rage, based in fear and helplessness, is kept to the confines of this blog.

    Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:35 am | Permalink
  22. AVERAGE JOE wrote:

    #21 Don’t believe number 16 mention “race.” That is what the “left” does.” Makes above average dumb statements.

    Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 11:05 am | Permalink
  23. callmecynical wrote:

    Ever stop to consider that the reason Joe did not knock himself out campaigning all over the place is because he knew the fix was in?

    Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 11:34 am | Permalink
  24. Anonymous wrote:

    #20 Hillary Clinton accepted it? Really? I don’t think so.

    Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 12:46 pm | Permalink
  25. Anonymous wrote:

    7 Dials are still in charge. You, the peons, aren’t in play.

    Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:42 pm | Permalink
  26. Anonymous wrote:

    What does “being down” “im down with”? I don’t understand street jargon, yet?

    Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:50 pm | Permalink
  27. flower power wrote:

    #26 C’mon, man, it means they are cool with it. In other words, they go along with whatever, I think. Generation gap, ya know. I was very with it in my day. Hell, still am…

    Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 5:15 pm | Permalink
  28. Sour grapes wrote:

    #22 he didn’t mention race but then again, neither did I. But over the years Mr D has made it very clear what he thinks if women and non whites. Very clear. Sorry if pointing that out offends you. So many snowflakes.

    #23 Hahahaha. Again, proof please. Trump will have the best election lawyers money can buy (ol’ hand down the pants Giuliani not withstanding) on the case. And since you private citizens sitting at your computers know about the fraud, surely the best lawyers and the power of the presidency will uncover it. Right? But if they don’t find any fraud (spoiler alert: they won’t), will you then go back to complaining about things that are real?
    Or will you suggest that even the election lawyers that the Trump campaign hires are somehow also against him?

    #24 well since it was only four years ago, you can actually look this up. Now getting over it emotionally she probably has never done. However, she did CALL Mr Trump and conceded the election to him. She didn’t stomp and whine and refuse to do the thing that every single losing candidate has done; be a gown up and call to congratulate the winner. It’s the thing we MAKE our children do when they lose a soccer game-shake hands with the winners. Now it takes courage and humility, but those are two of the many virtues that Trump does not possess.

    Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 6:35 pm | Permalink
  29. Anonymous wrote:

    #28 Filing lawsuits is his right. It has happened in many elections. That is not stomping and whining. I’m sure he will concede if he loses in court. He will probably lose the election, but I think he will win Pennsylvania. Stay tuned

    Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 9:52 pm | Permalink
  30. Random Belmartian wrote:

    The fact that people will accept these results because “their guy won” is sad. No american should accept these results no matter who they were for. There are so many irregularities,”software glitches” and laws broken this vote would not hold up in a school election let alone a national election. I really don’t care if biden won. I will never trust the outcome. When court appointed observers for the GOP are thrown out and windows are covered up during the count there is something fishy going on. If biden really won then I would expect the dems to have every GOP person they could find to count with them to prove the victory. our voting process is a joke. Photo ID for voting is the only solution.

    When trump won in 16 there were no issues like this. I guess I’ll have to get a “Not my president” tee shirt and put a #resist bumper sticker on my car and watch all the trump supporters riot, loot and burn down their neighborhoods.

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 1:49 am | Permalink
  31. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    “Lawsuits” – Yep, first we get two stinking maggots running for POTUS and then on top of everything we get the filthy federal judges brought into it. Reminds me of some lyrics to a song long ago – “You mustn’t be discouraged, there’s always one step further down you can go.”

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 4:35 am | Permalink
  32. Anonymous wrote:

    #31 You can’t change the rules of elections as you see fit. Read the Constitution. Like the candidates or not.

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 5:39 am | Permalink
  33. Anonymous wrote:

    Mark, if Facebook and Twitter can disallow obvious truth ,While enjoying 203 status, then I think Dave should be allowed to post numerical truths on his blog. Also, What has a profound affect on the country will also have a profound affect on Belmar.

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 7:19 am | Permalink
  34. law and odor wrote:

    #31- There is zero proof of the problems you listed. The republican observers were at every polling station and windows weren’t covered up. You cannot just make accusations without actual proof. Trump can fight this all he wants, it is his right to do so. And with the power of the presidency and the best legal minds available, any of the irregularities that YOU are privy to will be exposed. I mean since YOU know about them, I’m certain the president of the united and the best election lawyers will discover them. But so far most of his suits have been dismissed due to lake of evidence. Maybe you should reach out to their legal team since you have the evidence they need.

    When trump won in 2016 there were the same issues “like this’. There are issues ‘like this’ in every modern election over the last 40 years. They are insignificant and never overturn the vote. The only difference this time is that we have a giant baby living in the WH. So put on your not my president shirt (probably still have it from the Obama days, there were certainly a lot of them out there) and your resist shirt- after all, it is still America.

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 7:46 am | Permalink
  35. reality bites wrote:

    #33 FB and Twitter only flag things that are objectively false, misleading, promote violence, etc. However, if you do not like what they flag you can do what I do, don’t go on them.
    Dave can publish anything he wants, it’s his platform. The problem is, I’ll say it again, there is NO PROOF of the kind of large scale fraud that would change the results of this election. If all you armchair investigators claim to KNOW that the election was fixed, then I’m sure that the GD president of the GD United States and his lawyers (best legal minds money can buy) will find the same evidence. Can we agree on that?? Yes? Good. Now, having said that, if they fight this thing and loose in the courts can we all just admit that Trump lost the election? Or will you keep clinging on to this fantasy even after Trump and his lawyers are unable to prove their claims in federal court?

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 9:22 am | Permalink
  36. BLM wrote:

    Stands for Bidens Laptop Matters.
    Are you saying that Joe Biden is not the(Big guy)? Be honest, if that were Eric Trumps Laptop would it have been treated differently?
    Did the Russians put all of the family photos, text messages on the laptop?
    Any corruption on either side should be fair game.
    You may not even know what I’m talking about if you only take in information from an increasingly politicized news media.

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 10:34 am | Permalink
  37. Anonymous wrote:

    If Biden is our president I hope he does well because I love this country unlike the left who prayed for disease and failure because they had so much hatred in their hearts for Trump.
    Did you notice the absence of riots just like when Obama was elected ?
    What does that tell you?

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 10:37 am | Permalink
  38. lost wrote:

    #36- I know exactly what you’re talking about. Unfortunately, presidents Trump’s DOJ, Attorney General, and FBI didn’t find enough credible evidence to support the claims. Do you honestly think for one second that if “the laptop from hell” was everything they said it was that Barr and the entire justice department wouldn’t have started an investigation?!? Are you that far gone that you think that Trump’s own people wouldn’t uphold the law?? You act like the POTUS and the DOJ are powerless to charge the Biden’s. Listen to yourself. It is astounding what this failed business man turned reality TV star has been able to do to otherwise intelligent people. It’s like Jim Jones. Crazy

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:11 am | Permalink
  39. tango for two wrote:

    #37 I too love this country. I’m glad you want to see Biden do well but don’t paint everyone with the same brush. There are just as many Trump supporters that have ‘hatred in their hearts’ for not only Biden, but anyone that dares to challenge the president. During vote counts in AZ and PA, poll workers had to be escorted to their cars by police officers because Trump supports showed up, hostile, chanting, and armed.
    Please don’t pretend that Trump supporters own the high road. Both sides have their share of bad actors.

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 11:21 am | Permalink
  40. Anonymous wrote:

    What are the shop owners in dem cities going to do with all of that plywood now that Trump didn’t win? Maybe AOC can come up with an Environmentaly friendly way to dispose of it or just hold on to it until the Democrats fake outrage in order rape, rob, murder, loot and burn.
    There’s bad actors in both groups but I think you have us by a greater margin than the fake election.
    I say this with no vitriol and
    I have gotten something out of your words.

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 1:36 pm | Permalink
  41. Anonymous wrote:

    My 401(k) is going up so much today that it won’t even matter if Biden imposes his proposed taxes on said accounts.The one thing I think that we can all agree on is that both sides like to spend money that we don’t have.

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 1:39 pm | Permalink
  42. tango wrote:

    #40 Your post proves my point. In the same post you say “democrats” “rape, rob, murder and burn” and then, astoundingly, you say “I say this with no vitriol”.
    That is the most vitriolic thing you could say. Those things are done by criminals, not democrats. I’m a democrat and a father and a husband and a tax payer. I’ve never done any of those things in my life. And although Trump has been charged with rape by at least two different woman, I don’t think that all republicans are rapists.

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 4:04 pm | Permalink
  43. Chapter 11 wrote:

    #41 Bingo. Our deficit is higher now AND pre covid than it has ever been. Literally ever. Trump was spending like a drunken sailor. The US isn’t one of his casinos he can just over extend and then walk away from while stiffing his creditors. This election was the best thing for all financially.

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 4:08 pm | Permalink
  44. BELLE wrote:

    It’s pretty simple, we voted for Trump because we love him. Votes for Biden were cast out of Hate for Trump. They didn’t vote for Biden because they loved him or even liked his Political views. They just HATED Trump.


    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 4:27 pm | Permalink
  45. Anonymous wrote:

    Tango, not all Democrats engage in those things but almost all people who engage in those things are Democrats.
    I’m sure you are a fine person, probably a bit misguided as a result of our education system, social media, television and print media but a fine well meaning person none the less.
    Oh, the truth was not said of vitriol. It’s just truth.

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 5:48 pm | Permalink
  46. Random Belmartian wrote:

    #34. I think your post was directed at me. Here is where I got my information from. I did not make anything up

    Windows covered over in Detroit

    Detroit ballot counters cheer after GOP lawyer and observer removed from counting room

    Why would they cheer? They were all impartial right?

    “glitch” in Michigan causes recount of votes after votes were tallied wrong

    Since this has come out MI officials are saying there was no glitch but in the article i posted it states that they were working with the software vendor to see what the problem was so we will have to wait on this on.

    If i remember my civics class correctly not one vote total has been certified by any state. They are just starting the “canvas mode” of the vote process which is where most irregularities would be found. After that the vote totals get certified THEN the election is called for whoever won the electoral college. We still have a ways to go. Just because the main stream media and social media says something does not mean it’s true.

    Honestly I’m not a raving trump lover but I do think he was a better choice than biden who was forced down our throats but the democratic powers that be.

    Another fun fact you cannot find the links i listed on the first page of a google search but they are first page on duckduckgo search.

    Makes some people go hmmmmm 🙂

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 6:58 pm | Permalink
  47. Mark wrote:

    I have commented on this site many times, but have NOT posted on this topic…why do you allow duplicate “names”? I suggest a way to limit “Names” to one if that is possible…i.e. matching email address….people think I have commented on this topic and I have not…..but thank you for continuing to run this site.

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 7:14 pm | Permalink
  48. L&O wrote:

    #46 yes it was directed at you. I’ll address one by one I guess

    Windows were covered because Trump supporters went down to the polling center to bang on said windows and chant ‘stop the count’ while they were still counting. They were also taking pictures with their cell phones and basically being disruptive. Windows were covered so that the poll workers could count. I’ll tell you what, try to count while someone is shouting at you and banging on your windows. There are video cameras inside and Republican poll watchers.
    Trying to disrupt a vote count is wrong. Sorry

    The GOP ‘election officials’ were removed, they were removed by the police. They were removed BY THE POLICE (police love Trump according to Trump) because they were wearing masks and, again, trying to disrupt the count. If it was so nefarious, why on earth would the police remove them? You’d cheer too. They were replaced by GOP monitors that weren’t spoiled children.

    Finally- the 6000 votes given to Biden were discovered and corrected. It was a computer glitch and was noticed and corrected. Those things happen and they fixed it.

    Every election since the invention of television has been ‘called’ by media pundits. Even Bush V Gore in 2000. Super close. So close in fact that Gore actually won but they gave it to Bush.

    Anyway- like I said, Trump can sue all he wants. So far he’s 0-5. That’s right 5 of his cases have been tossed because they don’t have any evidence to back them up. There is nothing there to make anyone say hmmmmm or oooohhh or anything like it. Trump lost white women and the suburbs and the election.

    The reason you can’t find your links on the first Google page is because they are deeply misleading. But as Trump is probably thinking- Google, The news, Facebook, the police department, the legal system. Twitter, Illuminati, librarians, and the Girl Scouts of America are all out to get him.

    Biden wasn’t forced down anyone’s throats. He went through a crowded primary field and won a very contentious race. Or were the democratic primary elections all rigged too?

    It’s a dangerous game when we start questioning the democratic process because our guy didn’t win. And according to the evidence that’s exactly what’s happening.

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 7:47 pm | Permalink
  49. Anonymous wrote:

    Sour grapes, I am also appalled at some of the things that Mr. D says about race and sex. I am also appalled at Joe Biden saying that he will consider a VP based on race and sex. Preferential treatment based on sex or race should be illegal. He also strongly opposed integration and tried to keep Kamala from riding the integration bus, unless she was Lying during the debate. Besides calling little black kids roaches he also spoke so highly of one of the most prominent klan recruiters, Robert Bird.

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 8:50 pm | Permalink
  50. Anonymous wrote:

    This blog needs to end. It doesn’t make sense. It isn’t really about Belmar. It isn’t any better than Rocker’s (Joe McEvoy’s) ridiculous Facebook page.

    The admin isn’t living here and, although we can all appreciate his efforts over the years, he cannot possibly be invested since he left the community.

    Someone please take it over or shut it down. This is embarrassing.

    Monday, November 9, 2020 at 10:41 pm | Permalink
  51. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    When Kemala Harris is sworn in as POTUS, will she initiate the cult of Thuggee here in the USA?

    Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 4:58 am | Permalink
  52. Anonymous wrote:

    50 Why are you looking at this blog if it bothers you? Some would love it to go away because it has exposed corruption in Belmar over the years. Are you bothered by that?

    Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 5:06 am | Permalink
  53. SG wrote:

    #49- That’s some rather scary reading comprehension. Please go back and read everything Biden said about bussing (you’ll agree with it no doubt). But if you don’t feel like doing that then let’s just settle on: The old racist president has now been replaced by an old, less racist president. Happy?

    #50 I agree with 52. You want it to end? Just stop logging on. It’s super easy.

    Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 8:38 am | Permalink
  54. Eugene R Creamer wrote:

    Unlike 2016 … I haven’t heard any complaints about Russian meddling in our election … funny … how that ‘threat’ just disappeared!

    Putin is withholding any Biden congrats

    Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 9:00 am | Permalink
  55. Anonymous wrote:

    Sg,I would have been happier with an even less racist, less comprised and beholden to foreign powers president like buttigeig. But you’re a homophob no doubt(as long as we are randomly stereotyping people).

    Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 10:41 am | Permalink
  56. Anonymous wrote:

    Yeah 50, If you don’t like the apples don’t shake the tree.

    Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 10:42 am | Permalink
  57. Anonymous wrote:

    SG, I have enjoyed our spirited debate.
    The fact that you know about Biden’s past gives me hope. Again, I wish him great success. By the way, most of my friends are Liberals. You guys are just more fun to hang out with.
    Peace out

    Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 12:03 pm | Permalink
  58. SG wrote:

    #57. Haha. So did I, thank you. And I agree about the fun hanging out part too.

    Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 4:21 pm | Permalink
  59. SG wrote:

    #54 you’re joking right? There was story after story leading up to election about not only Russian medaling but also Iran and China. There was the same concerted effort. I mean come on man, if you’re going to weigh in to the discussion please do even a tiny bit of paying attention. Thank you.

    Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 4:23 pm | Permalink
  60. SG wrote:

    #55 not sure what you mean. Are you calling me a homophobe? I don’t recall saying anything that would lead you to that conclusion. If by randomly stereotyping, I assume you mean my replace one racist with a less racist comment? That was tongue in cheek. I don’t think Biden is a racist. I don’t even think that Trump is technically a racist. He just says a lot of racist things. And he is hesitant to unequivocally disassociate with racist groups. But not so much because he likes their message as because it means more votes (or adoration). I think it’s possible to say racist things and look the other way from racist behavior and not be a ‘racist’. More of an opportunist with racist tendencies. And that basically sums up Donald.

    Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 4:33 pm | Permalink
  61. admin wrote:

    Have any of the coverup operations (CNN, MSNBC, NYT) had anyone on the explain how these numbers actually do make sense or are they just ignoring it?

    Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 7:24 pm | Permalink
  62. Anonymous wrote:

    Maybe number 50 is right,Dave has no business running a local blog so I propose he change the name to common sense for America. It could be a National place where censorship does not rule the day.

    Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 7:45 pm | Permalink
  63. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    #60 – Sir, a couple of things First, your use of the word racist. Do you think there’s a difference between racist and racial realist (I’m a racial realist)?
    Having said that, you used the word stereotyping. Do you think all stereotyping is wrong? Isn’t some stereotyping right?

    Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 5:51 am | Permalink
  64. Reality wrote:

    #61 the election results numbers? They over explain them. You left out FOX. They called AZ for Biden before any other network (most still haven’t). Trump lost. I’m sorry. I know it’s hard to deal with but we have to deal with it. His court cases are failing one at a time. At what point do you all accept the reality and friggin move on. It’s down right dangerous at this point. Trump is stacking the top civilian posts at the military with loyalists. You are ok with that?!?!?!? That is despotic behavior. Not American at all. I’m fine with letting this be battled out in the courts but you can all see that it’s not numerically possible for trump to win.

    Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 9:45 am | Permalink
  65. Race is on wrote:

    #63. Perhaps there is a difference between those two things. But the difference is semantics. You fall squarely in the racist category.
    You make sweepingly general determinations about people based solely on the color of their skin or the origin of their birth. Dictionary definition of racist. You are also a misogynist. Perhaps there is some silver lining in the fact that you seem comfortable in your bigoted ways, but I don’t know.

    I agree about stereotypes though. Some are true. But some cause misunderstanding and can lead to oppression.

    Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 9:53 am | Permalink
  66. admin wrote:

    Algorithm discovered?

    Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 12:22 pm | Permalink
  67. God help us wrote:

    #66 please. I don’t even know where to begin. If this was Biden vs Cruz or Biden vs Christie or Biden vs Godzilla we wouldn’t be even having this ridiculous discussion. It’s Trump. It’s always been Trump. For some reason he has a hold on people that is astounding. It really is. So in 2016 there was no fraud? Or not enough fraud? Or was the fraud being committed by the republicans? Who knows? Certainly not these guys. This is in the hands of the courts. Trump has an uphill battle and will likely lose. Please just deal with whatever the result is.
    As an American citizen I am mortified that he has decided to sack the secretary of defense and install his loyalists at the top of the pentagon ranks during a lame duck period. I don’t care if you love trump, hate Trump, or are indifferent to Trump. That move is insane. As a libertarian, you should be beyond terrified of such a blatant overreach. You wanna do that once you’re sworn in for your second term? Fine. You no not do that in the middle of a disputed election. It’s autocratic and frankly there is zero defense for it. Stand by this latest maneuver? You’ve turned your back on what this country is about. Period.

    Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 2:23 pm | Permalink
  68. slanted side-eye wrote:

    What I have learned from Fox News is that the software glitch was located on computers in 46/47 counties in Michigan as well as in about 30 other states, and also, Pelosi and Diane Feinstein have interests in the company responsible for the software.

    Whether Trump is the numerical loser is less important than exposing voter fraud, in my opinion, although I still believe that another term for Trump would be better than the Biden/Harris administration. Biden will end all remnants of racism and create a responsible citizenry of tolerance for dissenters. (gagging here, of course)

    And Hilary was behind the Russian tampering hoax, created by her minions to harm Trump. I’m a believer, sorry.

    Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 2:35 pm | Permalink
  69. SG wrote:

    #68 totally agree about rooting out voter fraud. The news has been filled with attempts by republicans to cheat (in California the CRNC put out fake ballot drop boxes and were, thankfully, caught) in North Carolina back in 2018 republican candidate tried to pull absentee ballot fraud. Again, they were caught and the operative in charge was arrested and charged with obstruction of justice. If there are computer glitches, they should be identified and corrected. We can all agree that every legally cast vote should be counted.

    You’re last comment makes no sense. You can believe what you want I guess but the Russian tampering in the 2016 and 2020 election is painstakingly documented and agreed upon by every single intelligence agency (you know, the same agencies we trust to rely on for information when we are taking out terror suspects). You can’t trust them for one thing and not the other.
    Using the word “believer” is telling. Like it’s something that requires faith. These are just facts. Conflating the Clinton campaign’s paying for the Steele dossier and Russian influence in the election is very common among Trump supporters. They’re not the same thing.
    And you certainly can have an opinion about the Mueller report but you can’t deny it’s effectiveness. It resulted in 34 indictments with 8 convictions. Imagine for a second if the Obama administration had that hanging over their heads. You’d all be having seizures. But with Trump, it’s fake! Hysterical. I pray that one day we look back on this and think it’s funny. But right now, scary as hell.
    It surprises me how the folks on this blog could be so against Matt Doherty and the things he did while mayor but like Trump. They are the same person. Just a difference in scale.

    Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 4:50 pm | Permalink
  70. Pack it up wrote:

    This is getting old. People dancing in the streets. Even in my rural area there are homes that are flying flags along with Biden signs. Neighbors were hooting and hollering with joy when the news broke. While I agree that Doherty was out for himself and there were shenanigans happening with DJais, on this one, Dave, you are bat poop crazy. Biden won. The nation is tired of the constant turmoil under the reality TV has been. This blog is now a joke. I bet you believe pizzagate was real. I propose you make your fairwell announcement at your local landscape company.

    Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 7:33 pm | Permalink
  71. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    In the future, don’t have anything to do with elections. DON’T VOTE!

    Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 5:24 am | Permalink
  72. Anonymous wrote:

    Landscaping company?
    I don’t get it.
    Is Dave a landscaper?

    Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 9:10 am | Permalink
  73. Libertarian? wrote:

    Trump is the farthest thing from one. I think Libertarianism is dead.

    Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 9:57 am | Permalink
  74. admin wrote:

    Professor Walter E. Block, one of the most respected libertarians in the country, in Monday’s Wall Street Journal:

    Did the Libertarian Party throw the election to Joe Biden? Maybe. At this writing nominee Jo Jorgensen’s vote total exceeds Mr. Biden’s margin over President Trump in Arizona, Georgia, Nevada and Pennsylvania, enough to change the outcome.

    In 2000 the Green Party was accused of ruining things for the Democrats. Did Ralph Nader throw the election from Al Gore to George W. Bush? The cognoscenti are still divided, but the 2020 parallels are strong. Probably most Green voters would have gone Democratic if forced into a binary choice. Similarly, on the Libertarian-O-Meter, Mr. Trump scores much higher than Mr. Biden.

    Yes, the Donald is a protectionist, and free trade is the preferred policy of those who favor economic and personal liberty. But when it comes to lowering taxes and easing regulations on business, the party of the elephant is far more closely aligned to the libertarian philosophy than that of the donkey. Mr. Trump has appointed conservatives to the Supreme Court, not libertarians like Randy Barnett, Clint Bolick, Jacob Huebert, Gregory Rome or Brandon Thibodeaux. But supporters of the freedom philosophy prefer judges who adhere to the U.S. Constitution over those who make things up as they go along.

    In contrast, Mr. Biden is a puppet in the marionette hands of out-and-out socialists like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Yes, there are some issues on which libertarians are closer to Democrats, such as Oregon’s decriminalization of heroin and cocaine. But these are few and far between.

    The national Libertarian Party started in 1971, several state parties earlier. In 1969 I had the honor to run for the New York Assembly. My motto was “Disassemble the Assembly.” I didn’t win; I’m not sure my vote total reached triple digits. But I’ve been a staunch member of the party ever since.

    In 2016 physician Donald Miller, historian Ralph Raico and I started a group called Libertarians for Trump. Our advice to libertarian voters was: If you live in Massachusetts or California, strong blue states, vote for Gary Johnson, the Libertarian nominee. The Republicans will lose big there, and your vote for the porcupine won’t help the donkey beat the elephant. Likewise in Louisiana or Alabama, where Mr. Trump was sure to win. But if you live in a purple state, don’t vote Libertarian. It is crucial that Donald beat Hillary!

    I kick myself for not reinstituting this effort in 2019. My thought was that Gary Johnson, a former governor, was well-known and might manage 5% of the vote. He actually registered 3.27%, still more than three times the previous record of 1.06%, set by Ed Clark in 1980. I figured Ms. Jorgenson for 0.25%. She now looks on track to exceed Mr. Clark’s percentage slightly—and hand the presidency to Mr. Biden.

    Pardon me while I beat my head against the wall. How could libertarians in purple states be so stupid?

    Mr. Block is a professor of economics at Loyola University New Orleans.

    Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 10:21 am | Permalink
  75. Rocky landscape wrote:

    #72 they are referring to Rudy Giuliani’s now famously sad and funny press conference in Philadelphia. It was supposed to be in front of the Four Seasons hotel but thru a booking error was held in an industrial part of town in front of a place called Four Seasons Landscaping Company. It’s next to a porn shop called fantasy island. You must google it. Trump’s brain trust at work. It is hysterical. My first order of business would be to fire ol Rudy. His marbles have been spilling out for over a year now.

    Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 10:20 am | Permalink
  76. And Another Thing wrote:

    Trump has hired the best lawyers in the land to prove election fraud. If they can’t prove it (like the Republican led efforts in the past can’t), I hope Trumpers can be reasonable and acknowledge (like the so called libertarians mentioned in post before this) the constitution.

    Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 10:29 am | Permalink
  77. Your BS is showing wrote:

    It’s funny how Trump is only suing in the states (even counties within those states)where he lost. Fraud only happened in those places where Trump lost. How’s that for a mathmatical algorithim?

    Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 10:44 am | Permalink
  78. admin wrote:

    That’s the benefit of knowing the election results for all the states and then being allowed to generate votes where you need them for days after.

    Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:03 am | Permalink
  79. OMG wrote:

    #78 you don’t really believe that. We are all functioning adults here. Every single modern election we have had in this country the actual counting goes on for days after election day. Every one. There was a preponderance of mail in ballots this year (there are mail in ballots EVERY year, just more this year because of a pandemic). The states that are counting still like PA, AZ, and GA had laws passed by REPUBLICAN controlled state legislatures that said the mail in ballots CANNOT be counted until election day some decreed that they cant be counted until all the in person votes were counted first. That is a fact, not propaganda, not accusations. What is wrong with this country? We have never seen such a blatant attempt to circumvent democracy to appease a narcists wanna-be dictator who simply hates to lose. It is insane that we have to deal with this. If you have EVIDENCE of voter fraud, post it. If you have PROOF of voter fraud, post it. Making accusations is easy. Here watch- Trump sexually assaulted me. He did it when I was at Trump tower in 2003. He corned me in the bathroom. Since he allegedly did that to other women it must be true. I have no evidence. I have no witnesses. I have no forensics. I do however have third party stories and hearsay. I have a graph that shows the potential to be sexually assaulted by a rich white male. Please for the love of all the is holy, STOP THE INSANITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Saying your all behaving like children is an insult to children.

    Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 11:47 am | Permalink
  80. Pack it up wrote:

    THIS is why he lost. 240k+ dead..record level of new infections, hospitals filling up and the ass is attacking Fox News. Dave, you sir, are not as smart as you think you are.Your Emperor has no clothes.

    Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 2:01 pm | Permalink
  81. Registered Democrat wrote:

    He didn’t lose because of voter fraud, if there was any fraud it was on both sides the sad thing is he could have easily won re-election if he would have just used a small portion of his brain.

    Thursday, November 12, 2020 at 7:48 pm | Permalink
  82. Anonymous wrote:

    OMG, you totally plagiarized the Baseless Cory Booker allegations about the bathroom groping incident.

    Friday, November 13, 2020 at 8:20 am | Permalink
  83. Anonymous wrote:

    #79 – just know that I am one of many who are with you. Who still can detect the difference between propaganda and truth, who can relent when a polititian on “my side” is dangerous, who realizes that there is truth, and who knows how to find it. Hang in there.

    And if this transition survives the national security dangers, we’ll start bridging to the future.

    Friday, November 13, 2020 at 8:44 am | Permalink
  84. Anonymous wrote:

    83 what National security dangers?
    Seriously, should I be worried about something? As of now Trump lost which means that the plywood can be taken off of the store fronts in Democratic run cities.

    Friday, November 13, 2020 at 2:02 pm | Permalink
  85. Pay attention please wrote:

    #84 Hahahaha. So funny. He’s talking about the fact that Trump sacked the secretary of defense and filled a few top civilian military posts with loyalists. He did this during what is either a transition period OR while a disputed election is being disputed (depending on your view) Now you can say all you want about dems or Biden or whatever. But what Trump just did is objectively wrong and, according to national security agencies, super dangerous. If you can’t at least agree that it is as bizarre as it is dangerous, well you are too far gone to argue with.

    Friday, November 13, 2020 at 3:25 pm | Permalink
  86. Anonymous wrote:

    81, my Dave is brilliant and he knows the Constitution and the application thereof!

    Friday, November 13, 2020 at 6:24 pm | Permalink
  87. Anonymous wrote:

    80 you are correct that Dave is not as smart as he thinks he is because he is even smarter than that. It’s just that he’s also humble.I hope that he’s not so humble that he won’t post this. He even looks like Einstein. Lol

    Friday, November 13, 2020 at 9:59 pm | Permalink
  88. Anonymous wrote:

    Omg 87 you’re right!

    Saturday, November 14, 2020 at 6:44 pm | Permalink
  89. Anonymous wrote:

    #84 I hope you read #85. Also note the Democrat led cities are filled with peaceful people dancing in the streets. It’s really quite beautiful.

    Tuesday, November 17, 2020 at 8:41 am | Permalink
  90. Anonymous wrote:

    89 I wasn’t sure if you were joking but I think you’re serious. I hope you realize that if the media called Trump the winner that half of America would have been burned to the ground.

    Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 10:02 pm | Permalink
  91. slanted side-eye wrote:

    #90 You said it before I did. Say goodbye to the so-called “free country” that the U.S.A. used to be if “they” prevail.

    Thursday, November 19, 2020 at 8:26 am | Permalink
  92. Tom Dilberger wrote:

    I hope this comes through. Interestingly, young people aren’t as dumb as people think they are, at least not all of them.—————————-
    Seems a lot of the young people I run across when I’m out walking with my anti-covid-19 signs agree with me that’s it’s all a hoax. They know a hoax when they see it – or as we used to say, “they smell a rat”.

    Young Europeans Cast Greatest Doubt On
    Women’s Ability To Lead

    Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 8:48 am | Permalink
  93. Sky not falling wrote:

    #91 yea yea. I’m sure you say that every time a democrat gets elected to the White House. And guess what? It never happens. We just keep rolling along and you get to keep being free to be grumpy.
    Only difference is that sometimes the National budget gets balanced and welfare gets reformed (Clinton) and sometimes the most wanted terrorist in the world gets captured and killed and the economy is brought back from the brink of collapse (Obama). But other than that life just goes on. You know that. But fear not fellow American, you’ll still have the same freedoms you enjoyed the last four years.

    Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 7:53 am | Permalink
  94. slanted side-eye wrote:

    Optimists live longer but pessimists are right. Usually. I hope Biden does not mess things up too badly. He is filling up the swamp with some of the usual denizens of same.

    Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 9:38 am | Permalink
  95. Brat in chief wrote:

    #94 Trump filled the swamp with snakes and alligators. Half of his cabinet members resigned in disgrace. He also messed things up worse than they’ve been messed up for a generation (if you think this county is in good shape right now, than you are not paying attention) And he will sabotage as much as he can before he is dragged kicking and screaming out of the WH like a bratty child at a shopping mall. He will then take to Twitter like the twit that he is and blame Biden for the sh*t storm he himself causes. Mark my words.

    Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 11:18 am | Permalink

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